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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: "Christoph Böhmwalder" <christoph.boehmwalder@linbit.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	drbd-dev@lists.linbit.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Lars Ellenberg <lars.ellenberg@linbit.com>,
	Philipp Reisner <philipp.reisner@linbit.com>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	Donald Hunter <donald.hunter@gmail.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] tools: ynl-gen-c: optionally emit structs and helpers
Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 18:02:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260504180230.34ec1561@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <afhgQgySpoxXFCn1@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 4 May 2026 11:05:55 +0200 Christoph Böhmwalder wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2026 at 08:35:48AM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> >On Tue, 14 Apr 2026 14:08:58 +0200 Christoph Böhmwalder wrote:  
> >> But we still need to support the current family via a compat path, and
> >> I would much rather have two YNL-based families than one genl_magic and
> >> one YNL-based. Carrying both sounds like a nightmare.
> >>
> >> So the spec proposed in this series would never actually be used to
> >> generate a userspace client, if that's what you're asking. We would
> >> continue to use the current libgenl-based approach, with some userspace
> >> compat shims to make it work with YNL. Then, when "drbd2" comes along,
> >> we could "do things properly".  
> >
> >Let's jump to the drbd2 work.  
> 
> We have a bit of a chicken-egg situation there.
> 
> The drbd2 work depends on the DRBD 9 upstreaming series, since the drbd2
> netlink family will use the new DRBD 9 semantics.
> However, the DRBD 9 series depends on the current DRBD module already
> using YNL (or rather, *not* using genl_magic anymore).
> 
> Our plan is to convert the current family to YNL in-place first, then
> incrementally add the new modern drbd2 family with DRBD 9 semantics in
> another series.
> 
> How would you prefer to handle the YNL switch? If it makes it easier for
> you, just committing the YNL-generated code without the generator is
> fine for me. The old family is effectively frozen, so that would work.

That could work. Please float a series and CC netdev, we'll review.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-05  1:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-07 17:33 [PATCH 0/4] drbd: switch from genl_magic to YNL Christoph Böhmwalder
2026-04-07 17:33 ` [PATCH 1/4] drbd: move UAPI headers to include/uapi/linux/ Christoph Böhmwalder
2026-04-07 17:33 ` [PATCH 2/4] tools: ynl-gen-c: optionally emit structs and helpers Christoph Böhmwalder
2026-04-12 19:55   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-13 11:48     ` Christoph Böhmwalder
2026-04-13 17:49       ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-14 12:08         ` Christoph Böhmwalder
2026-04-14 15:35           ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-05-04  9:05             ` Christoph Böhmwalder
2026-05-05  1:02               ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2026-04-07 17:33 ` [PATCH 3/4] drbd: add YNL genetlink specification Christoph Böhmwalder
2026-04-07 17:33 ` [PATCH 4/4] drbd: switch from genl_magic macros to YNL-generated code Christoph Böhmwalder
2026-04-18  4:36   ` kernel test robot

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