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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Mark Bloch <mbloch@nvidia.com>
Cc: Tariq Toukan <tariqt@nvidia.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>, Shay Drory <shayd@nvidia.com>,
	Or Har-Toov <ohartoov@nvidia.com>,
	Edward Srouji <edwards@nvidia.com>,
	Maher Sanalla <msanalla@nvidia.com>,
	Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	Gerd Bayer <gbayer@linux.ibm.com>,
	Moshe Shemesh <moshe@nvidia.com>, Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
	Patrisious Haddad <phaddad@nvidia.com>,
	Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>,
	Carolina Jubran <cjubran@nvidia.com>,
	Cosmin Ratiu <cratiu@nvidia.com>,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Gal Pressman <gal@nvidia.com>,
	Dragos Tatulea <dtatulea@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next V2 7/7] net/mlx5: Add profile to auto-enable switchdev mode at device init
Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 18:21:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260504182122.08efb41e@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cc01cca2-0e5d-4db2-81e4-7ea9fe525320@nvidia.com>

On Sun, 3 May 2026 10:51:06 +0300 Mark Bloch wrote:
> On 03/05/2026 4:41, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > On Sat, 2 May 2026 23:08:43 +0300 Mark Bloch wrote:  
> >> Before I respin for the unrelated MR_CACHE cleanup, I’d like to confirm
> >> whether the opt-in profile approach is acceptable at all. Regardless
> >> of this last patch, the first 6 patches fix real representor/LAG locking
> >> issues and are needed independently, so I’d like to keep those moving toward
> >> acceptance as soon as possible.  
> > 
> > For probe-time config module param is probably our only option.
> > I'd obviously prefer to have a devlink-level knob for this, instead 
> > of a mlx5 specific one. Can we come up with some format that'd apply
> > more broadly? devlink=[$bfd:]flag1 ? so devlink=[$bdf:]switchdev-mode ?  
> 
> I’m not convinced this is really a generic devlink knob problem.

I'm surprised you say that. Anyone using switchdev mode could benefit.
Having the probe in one mode and switch adds to boot time. Whether it's
a DPU or not is quite secondary.

Unless there's another deeper reason which makes the DPU incapable of
running in the non-switchdev mode. But not sure that squares with the
code you posted AFAICT.

> A device should probe in its selected/default configuration. For DPU
> deployments switchdev is the expected operating mode. mlx5 just made the
> wrong default choice historically, and this profile is a way to move away
> from that without forcing it on everyone at once. I expect/hope to move
> quickly from this flag to simply making switchdev the driver default for
> all DPU configs.
> 
> A generic cmdline format also gets complicated quickly: vendor-specific
> flags, ordering/dependencies between flags, hotplug timing, and whether a
> BDF rule should apply when a device is passed into a VM after boot.
> Userspace scripts are probably better for that kind of policy because
> they can carry real site specific logic.
> 
> I’ll drop this last patch from the series for now so the representor/LAG
> locking fixes can move independently and we can continue the default
> switchdev discussion separately. I can always submit that as a standalone
> patch later in the cycle if needed.

SG

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-05  1:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-01  4:16 [PATCH net-next V2 0/7] net/mlx5: Improve representor lifecycle and allow switchdev by default Tariq Toukan
2026-05-01  4:16 ` [PATCH net-next V2 1/7] net/mlx5: Lag: refactor representor reload handling Tariq Toukan
2026-05-01  4:16 ` [PATCH net-next V2 2/7] net/mlx5: E-Switch, add representor lifecycle lock Tariq Toukan
2026-05-01  4:16 ` [PATCH net-next V2 3/7] net/mlx5: Lag, avoid LAG and representor lock cycles Tariq Toukan
2026-05-02 20:04   ` Mark Bloch
2026-05-01  4:16 ` [PATCH net-next V2 4/7] net/mlx5: E-Switch, serialize representor lifecycle Tariq Toukan
2026-05-02 20:05   ` Mark Bloch
2026-05-03  1:42   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-05-03  8:18     ` Mark Bloch
2026-05-01  4:16 ` [PATCH net-next V2 5/7] net/mlx5: E-Switch, unwind only newly loaded representor types Tariq Toukan
2026-05-02 20:06   ` Mark Bloch
2026-05-01  4:16 ` [PATCH net-next V2 6/7] net/mlx5: E-switch, load reps via work queue after registration Tariq Toukan
2026-05-02 20:07   ` Mark Bloch
2026-05-03  1:42   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-05-03  8:01     ` Mark Bloch
2026-05-01  4:16 ` [PATCH net-next V2 7/7] net/mlx5: Add profile to auto-enable switchdev mode at device init Tariq Toukan
2026-05-02 20:08   ` Mark Bloch
2026-05-03  1:41     ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-05-03  7:51       ` Mark Bloch
2026-05-05  1:21         ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2026-05-05  2:00           ` Mark Bloch
2026-05-05  2:19             ` Jakub Kicinski

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