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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Jakub Sitnicki <jakub@cloudflare.com>
Cc: Nicolai Buchwitz <nb@tipi-net.de>,
	davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org, edumazet@google.com,
	pabeni@redhat.com, andrew+netdev@lunn.ch, horms@kernel.org,
	michael.chan@broadcom.com, joshwash@google.com,
	tariqt@nvidia.com, haiyangz@microsoft.com, linux@armlinux.org.uk,
	maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com, willemb@google.com,
	ernis@linux.microsoft.com, sdf.kernel@gmail.com,
	kory.maincent@bootlin.com, danieller@nvidia.com,
	idosch@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 02/14] net: ethtool: make sure __ethtool_get_link_ksettings() is ops-locked
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2026 15:41:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260602154155.09eb2658@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874ijl5g56.fsf@cloudflare.com>

On Tue, 02 Jun 2026 13:35:33 +0200 Jakub Sitnicki wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 02, 2026 at 01:20 PM +02, Nicolai Buchwitz wrote:
> >> Not sure why we're using the "compat" assertion here, which falls back
> >> to check if RTNL is held, instead of the newly introduced
> >> netdev_assert_locked_if_ops().
> >> The contract here is that all callers are expected to hold the
> >> netdev lock (if needed), IIUC.
> >> [...]  
> >
> > AFAIU that's on purpose: the original helper had ASSERT_RTNL(), and
> > legacy callers still enter with rtnl_lock via the wrapper. _if_ops
> > would silently pass for them if rtnl ever went missing.  
> 
> But the legacy callers continue using __ethtool_get_link_ksettings(),
> which has an explicit ASSERT_RTNL(), so I still don't get it:
> 
> | +/* Convenience helper for callers that hold only rtnl_lock(). */
> | +int __ethtool_get_link_ksettings(struct net_device *dev,
> | +				 struct ethtool_link_ksettings *link_ksettings)
> | +{
> | +	int ret;
> | +
> | +	ASSERT_RTNL();
> | +
> | +	netdev_lock_ops(dev);
> | +	ret = ethtool_get_link_ksettings_locked(dev, link_ksettings);
> | +	netdev_unlock_ops(dev);
> | +	return ret;
> | +}
> |  EXPORT_SYMBOL(__ethtool_get_link_ksettings);
> 
> Anyway, no sense speculating. Let's wait for Jakub.

You're right, I probably didn't use the .._if_ops.. because the
spelling was kinda unusual. Looking at my local tree now I seem
to have switched to the _compat helper like you are suggesting
when renaming things.

I also renamed the new helper to netif_get_link_ksettings()
since that's the naming scheme we followed elsewhere (the netif_ 
prefix for helpers called with ops lock already held).

I've been digging thru the drivers calling
__ethtool_get_link_ksettings() since yesterday. Turns out I was quite
optimistic on none of them holding the ops lock :( Hopefully I'm
getting close to posting the first chunk of v2 (patches 1+2 from here
plus all the driver adjustments needed).

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-02 22:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-28 23:16 [PATCH net-next 00/14] net: ethtool: let ops locked drivers run without rtnl_lock Jakub Kicinski
2026-05-28 23:16 ` [PATCH net-next 01/14] net: ethtool: cmis_cdb: hold instance lock for ops locked devices Jakub Kicinski
2026-05-29 11:25   ` Jakub Sitnicki
2026-05-28 23:16 ` [PATCH net-next 02/14] net: ethtool: make sure __ethtool_get_link_ksettings() is ops-locked Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-02  9:17   ` Jakub Sitnicki
2026-06-02 11:20     ` Nicolai Buchwitz
2026-06-02 11:35       ` Jakub Sitnicki
2026-06-02 22:41         ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2026-05-28 23:16 ` [PATCH net-next 03/14] net: ethtool: serialize broadcast notification sequence allocation Jakub Kicinski
2026-05-28 23:16 ` [PATCH net-next 04/14] net: ethtool: relax ethnl_req_get_phydev() locking assertion Jakub Kicinski
2026-05-29  8:43   ` Maxime Chevallier
2026-05-29 14:27     ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-02 11:07     ` Nicolai Buchwitz
2026-05-28 23:16 ` [PATCH net-next 05/14] net: ethtool: make dev->hwprov ops-protected Jakub Kicinski
2026-05-28 23:16 ` [PATCH net-next 06/14] net: ethtool: optionally skip rtnl_lock on Netlink path for GET ops Jakub Kicinski
2026-05-28 23:16 ` [PATCH net-next 07/14] net: ethtool: optionally skip rtnl_lock on Netlink path for SET ops Jakub Kicinski
2026-05-28 23:16 ` [PATCH net-next 08/14] net: ethtool: optionally skip rtnl_lock in cable test handlers Jakub Kicinski
2026-05-28 23:16 ` [PATCH net-next 09/14] net: ethtool: optionally skip rtnl_lock in ethnl_tsinfo_dumpit() Jakub Kicinski
2026-05-28 23:16 ` [PATCH net-next 10/14] net: ethtool: optionally skip rtnl_lock in ethnl_act_module_fw_flash() Jakub Kicinski
2026-05-28 23:16 ` [PATCH net-next 11/14] net: ethtool: optionally skip rtnl_lock in RSS context handlers Jakub Kicinski
2026-05-28 23:16 ` [PATCH net-next 12/14] net: ethtool: ioctl: concentrate the locking Jakub Kicinski
2026-05-28 23:16 ` [PATCH net-next 13/14] net: ethtool: optionally skip rtnl_lock on IOCTL path Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-01 15:17   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-06-01 19:10     ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-05-28 23:16 ` [PATCH net-next 14/14] docs: net: ethtool: document ops-locked drivers and op_needs_rtnl Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-02 10:57   ` Nicolai Buchwitz
2026-05-29  7:41 ` [syzbot ci] Re: net: ethtool: let ops locked drivers run without rtnl_lock syzbot ci

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