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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>,
	David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex@shazbot.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org,
	Mark Bloch <mbloch@nvidia.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>, Tariq Toukan <tariqt@nvidia.com>,
	patches@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 06/11] selftests: Fix arm64 IO barriers to match kernel
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2026 11:31:19 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260605143119.GC1962447@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ah2B_mzQabiEYSWt@willie-the-truck>

On Mon, Jun 01, 2026 at 01:58:38PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Fri, May 29, 2026 at 04:29:34PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Fri, May 29, 2026 at 05:55:16PM +0100, David Laight wrote:
> > > On Fri, 29 May 2026 10:49:47 -0300
> > > Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Thu, May 28, 2026 at 06:13:26PM +0000, David Matlack wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Let's put these in tools/arch/arm64/include/asm/io.h so that the tools
> > > > > headers are more aligned with the kernel headers, and so that the arm64
> > > > > io.h overrides are done in the same way as the x86 overrides in
> > > > > tools/arch/x86/include/asm/io.h.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Something like this (untested):  
> > > > 
> > > > Okay, the disassembly says it works:
> > > > 
> > > >     1db8:       ca080108        eor     x8, x8, x8
> > > >     1dbc:       b5000008        cbnz    x8, 1dbc <readl+0x58>
> > > >     1dc0:       f9000fe8        str     x8, [sp, #24]
> > > 
> > > That looks strange, I suspect the C didn't match any usual pattern.
> > > Normally 'tmp' would get thrown away and 'v' would get kept.
> > > But you seem to have discarded 'v' and written 'tmp' to stack.
> > 
> > Oh interesting the optimizer isn't turned on for selftest builds. So
> > the str is dutifully writing tmp to the stack. Another register has
> > the actual value.
> > 
> > > I'm probably being stupid again, but how does that work?
> > > The cpu can speculate straight through the control dependency into
> > > the following instructions.
> > > An 'eor x1, x8, x8' may not even have a data-dependency on x8.
> > > (Most x86 cpus just generate a zero for the equivalent instruction.)
> > 
> > I can't say, this is copied from the kernel and Will made it:
> > 
> >     arm64: io: Ensure calls to delay routines are ordered against prior readX()
> 
> This is specifically for ordering counter accesses against prior
> barriered MMIO reads. Userspace should really be using the vDSO instead
> of accessing the counter directly, so you could probably drop this for
> the tools headers tbh and just have the dma_rmb().

Okay lets drop it then

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-05 14:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-15 17:29 [PATCH v2 00/11] mlx5 support for VFIO self test Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-15 17:29 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] net/mlx5: Add IFC structures for CQE and WQE Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-15 17:29 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] net/mlx5: Move HW constant groups from device.h/cq.h to mlx5_ifc.h Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-15 17:30 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] net/mlx5: Extract MLX5_SET/GET macros into mlx5_ifc_macros.h Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-15 17:30 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] net/mlx5: Add ONCE and MMIO accessor variants to mlx5_ifc_macros.h Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-15 17:30 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] selftests: Add additional kernel functions to tools/include/ Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-28 18:16   ` David Matlack
2026-05-15 17:30 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] selftests: Fix arm64 IO barriers to match kernel Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-28 18:13   ` David Matlack
2026-05-29 13:49     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-29 16:55       ` David Laight
2026-05-29 19:29         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-29 21:44           ` David Laight
2026-05-30  9:28             ` David Laight
2026-06-01 12:58           ` Will Deacon
2026-06-05 14:31             ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-05-15 17:30 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] vfio: selftests: Allow drivers to specify required region size Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-28 18:59   ` David Matlack
2026-05-29 17:37     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-15 17:30 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] vfio: selftests: Add dev_dbg Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-28 22:02   ` David Matlack
2026-05-15 17:30 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] vfio: selftests: Add mlx5 driver - HW init and command interface Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-15 17:30 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] vfio: selftests: Add mlx5 driver - data path and memcpy ops Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-15 17:30 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] vfio: selftests: mlx5 driver - add send_msi support Jason Gunthorpe

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