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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Jason Wang" <jasowangio@gmail.com>,
	"Eugenio Pérez" <eperezma@redhat.com>,
	"Xuan Zhuo" <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Andrew Lunn" <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@kernel.org>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, virtualization@lists.linux.dev,
	"Max Krasnyansky" <maxk@qualcomm.com>,
	"Rusty Russell" <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 3/4] net: resolve uncommon partial checksums at ingress
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2026 16:51:35 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261013165004-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAF=yD-JKeej85t+sCc_5K0b122uw_LiKWwX1fRL2V-QLrGA8QA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 13, 2026 at 02:45:07PM -0600, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2026 at 2:38 PM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 13, 2026 at 02:32:26PM -0600, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +     if (virtio_net_csum_partial_ok_at_offset(skb, gso_inner_type, inner_nh,
> > > > > > > +                                            inner_proto))
> > > > > > > +             return 0;
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +     if (skb_is_gso(skb))
> > > > > > > +             return -EINVAL;
> > > > >
> > > > > This is a risk the commit message will have to call out.
> > > >
> > > > I tried with this:
> > > >
> > > >         > > > We can't easily "complete the checksum" for GSO we don't recognize - GSO
> > > >         > > > assumes knowledge of the protocol. We could segment ignoring the
> > > >         > > > checksum then do whatever csum_start and csum_offset say, but that
> > > >         > > > seems like an overkill for something that should happen.
> > > >
> > > > I guess I can add a more detailed explanation about what the risk is?
> > >
> > > Let's just explicitly mention the consequence: non-standard GSO
> > > packets that previous would be sent may now fail.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > I don't see a simple way around it. We discussed segmenting here too,
> > > > > but that requires intrusive changes to all callers too.
> > > > > Alternatively,
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. call segmentation, but only to see it remove the SKB_GSO_DODGY and
> > > > > thus verify that the TSO/USO packet is valid. Still drop otherwise.
> > > > > This also does not add overhead, because it would be called later
> > > > > anyway.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. a failsafe off-by-default sysctl + static_branch that skips the
> > > > > drop when set. Messy, but so is the situation we're dealing with.
> > > >
> > > > Tack this on top or do you feel it's needed straight away.
> > >
> > > Not urgent. Can even wait until a report appears. But worth taking a
> > > look sooner if either of us gets around to it.
> >
> > Maybe if people intend all this for stable, I'll feel safer with this in
> > there.
> >
> > Just to make sure, the branch would just short-circuit all checks, yes?
> 
> Ah option 2, the failsafe? At least any new failures (GSO) that could
> cause regression reports. Operating entirely as before this series
> sounds fine too.

Right. I feel 1 is just as likely to cause regressions. At least 2 gives
us exactly legacy behaviour back.

-- 
MST


  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-13 20:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-13 10:58 [PATCH net-next 0/4] more virtio-net csum hardening Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-13 10:58 ` [PATCH net-next 1/4] net: add ip4_parse() Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-13 10:58 ` [PATCH net-next 2/4] net: use ip4_parse() in receive validation Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-13 10:58 ` [PATCH net-next 3/4] net: resolve uncommon partial checksums at ingress Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-13 11:06   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-13 15:03     ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-10-13 18:35       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-13 20:32         ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-10-13 20:38           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-13 20:45             ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-10-13 20:51               ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2026-10-13 20:15       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-13 10:58 ` [PATCH net-next 4/4] net: account for ingress-resolved virtio net hdr state Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-13 17:45   ` Björn Töpel
2026-10-13 18:12     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-13 11:05 ` [PATCH net-next 0/4] more virtio-net csum hardening Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-13 18:51   ` Chris Arges
2026-10-13 14:41 ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-10-13 18:41   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-13 20:29     ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-10-13 20:36       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-13 20:54         ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-10-13 20:56           ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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