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* [PATCH v3] intel: igb: igb_ethtool.c: Convert kmap() to kmap_local_page()
@ 2022-04-16 11:14 Alaa Mohamed
  2022-04-16 11:31 ` Julia Lawall
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Alaa Mohamed @ 2022-04-16 11:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: outreachy
  Cc: jesse.brandeburg, anthony.l.nguyen, davem, kuba, pabeni,
	intel-wired-lan, netdev, linux-kernel, ira.weiny,
	eng.alaamohamedsoliman.am

Convert kmap() to kmap_local_page()

With kmap_local_page(), the mapping is per thread, CPU local and not
globally visible.

Signed-off-by: Alaa Mohamed <eng.alaamohamedsoliman.am@gmail.com>
---
changes in V2:
	fix kunmap_local path value to take address of the mapped page.
---
changes in V3:
	edit commit message to be clearer
---
 drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb_ethtool.c | 4 ++--
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb_ethtool.c b/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb_ethtool.c
index 2a5782063f4c..c14fc871dd41 100644
--- a/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb_ethtool.c
+++ b/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb_ethtool.c
@@ -1798,14 +1798,14 @@ static int igb_check_lbtest_frame(struct igb_rx_buffer *rx_buffer,
 
 	frame_size >>= 1;
 
-	data = kmap(rx_buffer->page);
+	data = kmap_local_page(rx_buffer->page);
 
 	if (data[3] != 0xFF ||
 	    data[frame_size + 10] != 0xBE ||
 	    data[frame_size + 12] != 0xAF)
 		match = false;
 
-	kunmap(rx_buffer->page);
+	kunmap_local(data);
 
 	return match;
 }
-- 
2.35.2


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* Re: [PATCH v3] intel: igb: igb_ethtool.c: Convert kmap() to kmap_local_page()
  2022-04-16 11:14 [PATCH v3] intel: igb: igb_ethtool.c: Convert kmap() to kmap_local_page() Alaa Mohamed
@ 2022-04-16 11:31 ` Julia Lawall
  2022-04-16 13:18   ` Alaa Mohamed
       [not found]   ` <df4c0f81-454d-ab96-1d74-1c4fbc3dbd63@gmail.com>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Julia Lawall @ 2022-04-16 11:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alaa Mohamed
  Cc: outreachy, jesse.brandeburg, anthony.l.nguyen, davem, kuba,
	pabeni, intel-wired-lan, netdev, linux-kernel, ira.weiny



On Sat, 16 Apr 2022, Alaa Mohamed wrote:

> Convert kmap() to kmap_local_page()
>
> With kmap_local_page(), the mapping is per thread, CPU local and not
> globally visible.

It's not clearer.  This is a general statement about the function.  You
need to explain why it is appropriate to use it here.  Unless it is the
case that all calls to kmap should be converted to call kmap_local_page.

julia

>
> Signed-off-by: Alaa Mohamed <eng.alaamohamedsoliman.am@gmail.com>
> ---
> changes in V2:
> 	fix kunmap_local path value to take address of the mapped page.
> ---
> changes in V3:
> 	edit commit message to be clearer
> ---
>  drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb_ethtool.c | 4 ++--
>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb_ethtool.c b/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb_ethtool.c
> index 2a5782063f4c..c14fc871dd41 100644
> --- a/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb_ethtool.c
> +++ b/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb_ethtool.c
> @@ -1798,14 +1798,14 @@ static int igb_check_lbtest_frame(struct igb_rx_buffer *rx_buffer,
>
>  	frame_size >>= 1;
>
> -	data = kmap(rx_buffer->page);
> +	data = kmap_local_page(rx_buffer->page);
>
>  	if (data[3] != 0xFF ||
>  	    data[frame_size + 10] != 0xBE ||
>  	    data[frame_size + 12] != 0xAF)
>  		match = false;
>
> -	kunmap(rx_buffer->page);
> +	kunmap_local(data);
>
>  	return match;
>  }
> --
> 2.35.2
>
>
>

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* Re: [PATCH v3] intel: igb: igb_ethtool.c: Convert kmap() to kmap_local_page()
  2022-04-16 11:31 ` Julia Lawall
@ 2022-04-16 13:18   ` Alaa Mohamed
  2022-04-16 14:09     ` Julia Lawall
       [not found]   ` <df4c0f81-454d-ab96-1d74-1c4fbc3dbd63@gmail.com>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Alaa Mohamed @ 2022-04-16 13:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Julia Lawall
  Cc: outreachy, jesse.brandeburg, anthony.l.nguyen, davem, kuba,
	pabeni, intel-wired-lan, netdev, linux-kernel, ira.weiny


On ١٦‏/٤‏/٢٠٢٢ ١٣:٣١, Julia Lawall wrote:
>
> On Sat, 16 Apr 2022, Alaa Mohamed wrote:
>
>> Convert kmap() to kmap_local_page()
>>
>> With kmap_local_page(), the mapping is per thread, CPU local and not
>> globally visible.
> It's not clearer.
I mean this " fix kunmap_local path value to take address of the mapped 
page" be more clearer
> This is a general statement about the function.  You
> need to explain why it is appropriate to use it here.  Unless it is the
> case that all calls to kmap should be converted to call kmap_local_page.
It's required to convert all calls kmap to kmap_local_page. So, I don't 
what should the commit message be?

Is this will be good :

"kmap_local_page() was recently developed as a replacement for kmap().  The
kmap_local_page() creates a mapping which is restricted to local use by a
single thread of execution. "
>
> julia
>
>> Signed-off-by: Alaa Mohamed <eng.alaamohamedsoliman.am@gmail.com>
>> ---
>> changes in V2:
>> 	fix kunmap_local path value to take address of the mapped page.
>> ---
>> changes in V3:
>> 	edit commit message to be clearer
>> ---
>>   drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb_ethtool.c | 4 ++--
>>   1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb_ethtool.c b/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb_ethtool.c
>> index 2a5782063f4c..c14fc871dd41 100644
>> --- a/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb_ethtool.c
>> +++ b/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb_ethtool.c
>> @@ -1798,14 +1798,14 @@ static int igb_check_lbtest_frame(struct igb_rx_buffer *rx_buffer,
>>
>>   	frame_size >>= 1;
>>
>> -	data = kmap(rx_buffer->page);
>> +	data = kmap_local_page(rx_buffer->page);
>>
>>   	if (data[3] != 0xFF ||
>>   	    data[frame_size + 10] != 0xBE ||
>>   	    data[frame_size + 12] != 0xAF)
>>   		match = false;
>>
>> -	kunmap(rx_buffer->page);
>> +	kunmap_local(data);
>>
>>   	return match;
>>   }
>> --
>> 2.35.2
>>
>>
>>

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* Re: [PATCH v3] intel: igb: igb_ethtool.c: Convert kmap() to kmap_local_page()
  2022-04-16 13:18   ` Alaa Mohamed
@ 2022-04-16 14:09     ` Julia Lawall
  2022-04-16 15:52       ` Fabio M. De Francesco
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Julia Lawall @ 2022-04-16 14:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alaa Mohamed
  Cc: Julia Lawall, outreachy, jesse.brandeburg, anthony.l.nguyen,
	davem, kuba, pabeni, intel-wired-lan, netdev, linux-kernel,
	ira.weiny

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On Sat, 16 Apr 2022, Alaa Mohamed wrote:

>
> On ١٦/٤/٢٠٢٢ ١٣:٣١, Julia Lawall wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 16 Apr 2022, Alaa Mohamed wrote:
> >
> > > Convert kmap() to kmap_local_page()
> > >
> > > With kmap_local_page(), the mapping is per thread, CPU local and not
> > > globally visible.
> > It's not clearer.
> I mean this " fix kunmap_local path value to take address of the mapped page"
> be more clearer
> > This is a general statement about the function.  You
> > need to explain why it is appropriate to use it here.  Unless it is the
> > case that all calls to kmap should be converted to call kmap_local_page.
> It's required to convert all calls kmap to kmap_local_page. So, I don't what
> should the commit message be?

If all calls should be changed then you can also say that.

I thought that a previous commit on the outreachy list made some arguments
about how the affacted value was just allocated and thus could not yet be
shared.

julia

>
> Is this will be good :
>
> "kmap_local_page() was recently developed as a replacement for kmap().  The
> kmap_local_page() creates a mapping which is restricted to local use by a
> single thread of execution. "
> >
> > julia
> >
> > > Signed-off-by: Alaa Mohamed <eng.alaamohamedsoliman.am@gmail.com>
> > > ---
> > > changes in V2:
> > > 	fix kunmap_local path value to take address of the mapped page.
> > > ---
> > > changes in V3:
> > > 	edit commit message to be clearer
> > > ---
> > >   drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb_ethtool.c | 4 ++--
> > >   1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb_ethtool.c
> > > b/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb_ethtool.c
> > > index 2a5782063f4c..c14fc871dd41 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb_ethtool.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb_ethtool.c
> > > @@ -1798,14 +1798,14 @@ static int igb_check_lbtest_frame(struct
> > > igb_rx_buffer *rx_buffer,
> > >
> > >   	frame_size >>= 1;
> > >
> > > -	data = kmap(rx_buffer->page);
> > > +	data = kmap_local_page(rx_buffer->page);
> > >
> > >   	if (data[3] != 0xFF ||
> > >   	    data[frame_size + 10] != 0xBE ||
> > >   	    data[frame_size + 12] != 0xAF)
> > >   		match = false;
> > >
> > > -	kunmap(rx_buffer->page);
> > > +	kunmap_local(data);
> > >
> > >   	return match;
> > >   }
> > > --
> > > 2.35.2
> > >
> > >
> > >
>

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* Re: [PATCH v3] intel: igb: igb_ethtool.c: Convert kmap() to kmap_local_page()
  2022-04-16 14:09     ` Julia Lawall
@ 2022-04-16 15:52       ` Fabio M. De Francesco
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Fabio M. De Francesco @ 2022-04-16 15:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alaa Mohamed, Julia Lawall
  Cc: Julia Lawall, outreachy, jesse.brandeburg, anthony.l.nguyen,
	davem, kuba, pabeni, intel-wired-lan, netdev, linux-kernel,
	ira.weiny

On sabato 16 aprile 2022 16:09:58 CEST Julia Lawall wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 16 Apr 2022, Alaa Mohamed wrote:
> 
> >
> > On ١٦/٤/٢٠٢٢ ١٣:٣١, Julia Lawall wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, 16 Apr 2022, Alaa Mohamed wrote:
> > >
> > > > Convert kmap() to kmap_local_page()
> > > >
> > > > With kmap_local_page(), the mapping is per thread, CPU local and 
not
> > > > globally visible.
> > > It's not clearer.
> > I mean this " fix kunmap_local path value to take address of the mapped 
page"
> > be more clearer
> > > This is a general statement about the function.  You
> > > need to explain why it is appropriate to use it here.  Unless it is 
the
> > > case that all calls to kmap should be converted to call 
kmap_local_page.
> > It's required to convert all calls kmap to kmap_local_page. So, I don't 
what
> > should the commit message be?
> 
> If all calls should be changed then you can also say that.

If all calls should be changed with no regards to the surrounding contexts 
and special situations, we can just make an automated s/kmap()/
kmap_local_page()/ or something else similar :)

Thanks,

Fabio M. De Francesco

> 
> I thought that a previous commit on the outreachy list made some 
arguments
> about how the affacted value was just allocated and thus could not yet be
> shared.
> 
> julia




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* Re: [PATCH v3] intel: igb: igb_ethtool.c: Convert kmap() to kmap_local_page()
       [not found]   ` <df4c0f81-454d-ab96-1d74-1c4fbc3dbd63@gmail.com>
@ 2022-04-18 22:19     ` Ira Weiny
  2022-04-19 13:37       ` Alaa Mohamed
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Ira Weiny @ 2022-04-18 22:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alaa Mohamed
  Cc: Julia Lawall, outreachy, jesse.brandeburg, anthony.l.nguyen,
	davem, kuba, pabeni, intel-wired-lan, netdev, linux-kernel

On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 03:14:57PM +0200, Alaa Mohamed wrote:
>    On ١٦‏/٤‏/٢٠٢٢ ١٣:٣١, Julia Lawall wrote:
> 
> 
>  On Sat, 16 Apr 2022, Alaa Mohamed wrote:
> 
> 
>  Convert kmap() to kmap_local_page()
> 
>  With kmap_local_page(), the mapping is per thread, CPU local and not
>  globally visible.
> 
>  It's not clearer. 
> 
>    I mean this " fix kunmap_local path value to take address of the mapped
>    page" be more clearer
> 
>  This is a general statement about the function.  You
>  need to explain why it is appropriate to use it here.  Unless it is the
>  case that all calls to kmap should be converted to call kmap_local_page.
> 
>    It's required to convert all calls kmap to kmap_local_page. So, I don't
>    what should the commit message be?
> 
>    Is this will be good :
> 
>    "kmap_local_page() was recently developed as a replacement for kmap(). 
>    The
>    kmap_local_page() creates a mapping which is restricted to local use by a
>    single thread of execution. "
> 

I think I am missing some thread context here.  I'm not sure who said what
above.  So I'm going to start over.

Alaa,

It is important to remember that a good commit message says 2 things.

	1) What is the problem you are trying to solve
	2) Overview of the solution

First off I understand your frustration.  In my opinion fixes and clean ups
like this are very hard to write good commit messages for because so often the
code diff seems so self explanatory.  However, each code change comes at the
identification of a problem.  And remember that 'problem' does not always mean
a bug fix.

The deprecation of kmap() may not seem like a problem.  I mean why can't we
just leave kmap() as it is?  It works right?

But the problem is that the kmap (highmem) interface has become stale and its
original purpose was targeted toward large memory systems with 32 bit kernels.
There are very few systems being run like that any longer.

So how do we clean up the kmap interface to be more useful to the kernel
community now that 32 bit kernels with highmem are so rare?

The community has identified that a first step of that is to move away from and
eventually remove the kmap() call.  This is due to the call being incorrectly
used to create long term mappings.  Most calls to kmap() are not used
incorrectly but those call sites needed something in between kmap() and
kmap_atmoic().  That call is kmap_local_page().

Now that kmap_local_page() exists the kmap() calls can be audited and most (I
hope most)[1] can be replaced with kmap_local_page().

The change you have below is correct.  But it lacks a good commit message.  We
need to cover the 2 points above.

	1) Julia is asking why you needed to do this change.  What is the
	   problem or reason for this change?  (Ira told you to is not a good
	   reason.  ;-)

	   PS In fact me telling you to may actually be a very bad reason...
	   j/k ;-)

	2) Why is this solution ok as part of the deprecation and removal of
	   kmap()?

A final note; the 2 above points don't need a lot of text.  Here I used
2 simple sentences.

https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220124015409.807587-2-ira.weiny@intel.com/

I hope this helps,
Ira

[1] But not all...  some uses of kmap() have been identified as being pretty
complex.

> 
>  julia
> 
> 
>  Signed-off-by: Alaa Mohamed <eng.alaamohamedsoliman.am@gmail.com>
>  ---
>  changes in V2:
>          fix kunmap_local path value to take address of the mapped page.
>  ---
>  changes in V3:
>          edit commit message to be clearer
>  ---
>   drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb_ethtool.c | 4 ++--
>   1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
>  diff --git a/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb_ethtool.c b/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb_ethtool.c
>  index 2a5782063f4c..c14fc871dd41 100644
>  --- a/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb_ethtool.c
>  +++ b/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb_ethtool.c
>  @@ -1798,14 +1798,14 @@ static int igb_check_lbtest_frame(struct igb_rx_buffer *rx_buffer,
> 
>          frame_size >>= 1;
> 
>  -       data = kmap(rx_buffer->page);
>  +       data = kmap_local_page(rx_buffer->page);
> 
>          if (data[3] != 0xFF ||
>              data[frame_size + 10] != 0xBE ||
>              data[frame_size + 12] != 0xAF)
>                  match = false;
> 
>  -       kunmap(rx_buffer->page);
>  +       kunmap_local(data);
> 
>          return match;
>   }
>  --
>  2.35.2

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* Re: [PATCH v3] intel: igb: igb_ethtool.c: Convert kmap() to kmap_local_page()
  2022-04-18 22:19     ` Ira Weiny
@ 2022-04-19 13:37       ` Alaa Mohamed
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Alaa Mohamed @ 2022-04-19 13:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ira Weiny
  Cc: Julia Lawall, outreachy, jesse.brandeburg, anthony.l.nguyen,
	davem, kuba, pabeni, intel-wired-lan, netdev, linux-kernel


On ١٩‏/٤‏/٢٠٢٢ ٠٠:١٩, Ira Weiny wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 03:14:57PM +0200, Alaa Mohamed wrote:
>>     On ١٦‏/٤‏/٢٠٢٢ ١٣:٣١, Julia Lawall wrote:
>>
>>
>>   On Sat, 16 Apr 2022, Alaa Mohamed wrote:
>>
>>
>>   Convert kmap() to kmap_local_page()
>>
>>   With kmap_local_page(), the mapping is per thread, CPU local and not
>>   globally visible.
>>
>>   It's not clearer.
>>
>>     I mean this " fix kunmap_local path value to take address of the mapped
>>     page" be more clearer
>>
>>   This is a general statement about the function.  You
>>   need to explain why it is appropriate to use it here.  Unless it is the
>>   case that all calls to kmap should be converted to call kmap_local_page.
>>
>>     It's required to convert all calls kmap to kmap_local_page. So, I don't
>>     what should the commit message be?
>>
>>     Is this will be good :
>>
>>     "kmap_local_page() was recently developed as a replacement for kmap().
>>     The
>>     kmap_local_page() creates a mapping which is restricted to local use by a
>>     single thread of execution. "
>>
> I think I am missing some thread context here.  I'm not sure who said what
> above.  So I'm going to start over.
>
> Alaa,
>
> It is important to remember that a good commit message says 2 things.
>
> 	1) What is the problem you are trying to solve
> 	2) Overview of the solution
>
> First off I understand your frustration.  In my opinion fixes and clean ups
> like this are very hard to write good commit messages for because so often the
> code diff seems so self explanatory.  However, each code change comes at the
> identification of a problem.  And remember that 'problem' does not always mean
> a bug fix.
>
> The deprecation of kmap() may not seem like a problem.  I mean why can't we
> just leave kmap() as it is?  It works right?
>
> But the problem is that the kmap (highmem) interface has become stale and its
> original purpose was targeted toward large memory systems with 32 bit kernels.
> There are very few systems being run like that any longer.
>
> So how do we clean up the kmap interface to be more useful to the kernel
> community now that 32 bit kernels with highmem are so rare?
>
> The community has identified that a first step of that is to move away from and
> eventually remove the kmap() call.  This is due to the call being incorrectly
> used to create long term mappings.  Most calls to kmap() are not used
> incorrectly but those call sites needed something in between kmap() and
> kmap_atmoic().  That call is kmap_local_page().
>
> Now that kmap_local_page() exists the kmap() calls can be audited and most (I
> hope most)[1] can be replaced with kmap_local_page().
>
> The change you have below is correct.  But it lacks a good commit message.  We
> need to cover the 2 points above.
>
> 	1) Julia is asking why you needed to do this change.  What is the
> 	   problem or reason for this change?  (Ira told you to is not a good
> 	   reason.  ;-)
>
> 	   PS In fact me telling you to may actually be a very bad reason...
> 	   j/k ;-)
>
> 	2) Why is this solution ok as part of the deprecation and removal of
> 	   kmap()?
>
> A final note; the 2 above points don't need a lot of text.  Here I used
> 2 simple sentences.
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220124015409.807587-2-ira.weiny@intel.com/
>
> I hope this helps,
> Ira
>
> [1] But not all...  some uses of kmap() have been identified as being pretty
> complex.


Thanks a lot for detailed explaining , yes you help me a lot.


Thanks again,

Alaa

>>   julia
>>
>>
>>   Signed-off-by: Alaa Mohamed <eng.alaamohamedsoliman.am@gmail.com>
>>   ---
>>   changes in V2:
>>           fix kunmap_local path value to take address of the mapped page.
>>   ---
>>   changes in V3:
>>           edit commit message to be clearer
>>   ---
>>    drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb_ethtool.c | 4 ++--
>>    1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>
>>   diff --git a/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb_ethtool.c b/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb_ethtool.c
>>   index 2a5782063f4c..c14fc871dd41 100644
>>   --- a/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb_ethtool.c
>>   +++ b/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb_ethtool.c
>>   @@ -1798,14 +1798,14 @@ static int igb_check_lbtest_frame(struct igb_rx_buffer *rx_buffer,
>>
>>           frame_size >>= 1;
>>
>>   -       data = kmap(rx_buffer->page);
>>   +       data = kmap_local_page(rx_buffer->page);
>>
>>           if (data[3] != 0xFF ||
>>               data[frame_size + 10] != 0xBE ||
>>               data[frame_size + 12] != 0xAF)
>>                   match = false;
>>
>>   -       kunmap(rx_buffer->page);
>>   +       kunmap_local(data);
>>
>>           return match;
>>    }
>>   --
>>   2.35.2

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