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From: Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@huawei.com>
To: "Yunsheng Lin" <yunshenglin0825@gmail.com>,
	"Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>,
	davem@davemloft.net, kuba@kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com
Cc: <zhangkun09@huawei.com>, <liuyonglong@huawei.com>,
	<fanghaiqing@huawei.com>,
	Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>,
	Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
	Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>, <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v7 2/8] page_pool: fix timing for checking and disabling napi_local
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2025 21:03:43 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <22de6033-744e-486e-bbd9-8950249cd018@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5059df11-a85b-4404-8c24-a9ccd76924f3@gmail.com>

On 2025/1/11 13:24, Yunsheng Lin wrote:

...

>>>   }
>>>     void page_pool_put_unrefed_netmem(struct page_pool *pool, netmem_ref netmem,
>>> @@ -1165,6 +1172,12 @@ void page_pool_destroy(struct page_pool *pool)
>>>       if (!page_pool_release(pool))
>>>           return;
>>>   +    /* Paired with rcu lock in page_pool_napi_local() to enable clearing
>>> +     * of pool->p.napi in page_pool_disable_direct_recycling() is seen
>>> +     * before returning to driver to free the napi instance.
>>> +     */
>>> +    synchronize_rcu();
>>
>> Most drivers call page_pool_destroy() in a loop for each RX queue, so
>> now you're introducing a full synchronize_rcu() wait for each queue.
>> That can delay tearing down the device significantly, so I don't think
>> this is a good idea.
> 
> synchronize_rcu() is called after page_pool_release(pool), which means
> it is only called when there are some inflight pages, so there is not
> necessarily a full synchronize_rcu() wait for each queue.
> 
> Anyway, it seems that there are some cases that need explicit
> synchronize_rcu() and some cases depending on the other API providing
> synchronize_rcu() semantics, maybe we provide two diffferent API for
> both cases like the netif_napi_del()/__netif_napi_del() APIs do?

As the synchronize_rcu() is also needed to fix the DMA API misuse problem,
we can not really handle it like netif_napi_del()/__netif_napi_del() APIs
do, the best I can think is something like below:

bool need_sync = false;

for (each queue)
	need_sync |= page_pool_destroy_prepare(queue->pool);

if (need_sync)
	synchronize_rcu()

for (each queue)
	page_pool_destroy_commit(queue->pool);

But I am not sure if the above worth the effort or not for now as the
synchronize_rcu() is only called for the inflight page case.
Any better idea? If not, maybe we can optimize the above later if
the synchronize_rcu() does turn out to be a problem.

> 

  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-14 13:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-10 13:06 [PATCH net-next v7 0/8] fix two bugs related to page_pool Yunsheng Lin
2025-01-10 13:06 ` [PATCH net-next v7 1/8] page_pool: introduce page_pool_get_pp() API Yunsheng Lin
2025-01-10 13:06 ` [PATCH net-next v7 2/8] page_pool: fix timing for checking and disabling napi_local Yunsheng Lin
2025-01-10 15:40   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-01-11  5:24     ` Yunsheng Lin
2025-01-14 13:03       ` Yunsheng Lin [this message]
2025-01-20 11:24       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-01-22 11:02         ` Yunsheng Lin
2025-01-24 17:13           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-01-25 14:21             ` Yunsheng Lin
2025-01-27 13:47               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-02-04 13:51                 ` Yunsheng Lin
2025-01-10 13:06 ` [PATCH net-next v7 3/8] page_pool: fix IOMMU crash when driver has already unbound Yunsheng Lin
2025-01-15 16:29   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-01-16 12:52     ` Yunsheng Lin
2025-01-16 16:09       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-01-17 11:56         ` Yunsheng Lin
2025-01-17 16:56           ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-01-18 13:36             ` Yunsheng Lin
2025-01-10 13:06 ` [PATCH net-next v7 4/8] page_pool: support unlimited number of inflight pages Yunsheng Lin
2025-01-10 13:06 ` [PATCH net-next v7 5/8] page_pool: skip dma sync operation for " Yunsheng Lin
2025-01-10 13:07 ` [PATCH net-next v7 6/8] page_pool: use list instead of ptr_ring for ring cache Yunsheng Lin
2025-01-10 13:07 ` [PATCH net-next v7 7/8] page_pool: batch refilling pages to reduce atomic operation Yunsheng Lin
2025-01-10 13:07 ` [PATCH net-next v7 8/8] page_pool: use list instead of array for alloc cache Yunsheng Lin
2025-01-14 14:31 ` [PATCH net-next v7 0/8] fix two bugs related to page_pool Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-01-15 11:33   ` Yunsheng Lin
2025-01-15 17:40     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-01-16 12:52       ` Yunsheng Lin
2025-01-16 18:02         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-01-17 11:35           ` Yunsheng Lin
2025-01-18  8:04             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer

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