* 2.6.33-rc5: Reported regressions 2.6.31 -> 2.6.32
@ 2010-01-24 22:15 Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <q60Z28d_9yH.A.oqH.NZMXLB@chimera>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Rafael J. Wysocki @ 2010-01-24 22:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Linux Kernel Mailing List
Cc: Andrew Morton, Linus Torvalds, Natalie Protasevich,
Kernel Testers List, Network Development, Linux ACPI,
Linux PM List, Linux SCSI List, Linux Wireless List, DRI
[NOTES:
* This is worrisome. Regressions from 2.6.31 are still being reported and we
are not fixing them. Even the ones that have been bisected don't seem to
be taken care of.]
This message contains a list of some regressions introduced between 2.6.31 and
2.6.32, for which there are no fixes in the mainline I know of. If any of them
have been fixed already, please let me know.
If you know of any other unresolved regressions introduced between 2.6.31
and 2.6.32, please let me know either and I'll add them to the list.
Also, please let me know if any of the entries below are invalid.
Each entry from the list will be sent additionally in an automatic reply to
this message with CCs to the people involved in reporting and handling the
issue.
Listed regressions statistics:
Date Total Pending Unresolved
----------------------------------------
2010-01-24 140 45 43
2010-01-10 130 44 40
2009-12-29 124 60 57
2009-11-21 86 29 25
2009-11-16 84 46 41
2009-10-26 66 42 37
2009-10-12 48 31 27
2009-10-02 22 15 9
Unresolved regressions
----------------------
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15135
Subject : Kernel 2.6.32.x hangs during boot process
Submitter : François Figarola <francois.figarola-lUrpeit6/WqB4Ue4x7It+g@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2010-01-16 9:58 (9 days old)
References : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=126363593817261&w=4
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15127
Subject : Bluetooth: sleeping function called from invalid context
Submitter : David John <davidjon-XRr60H37pjdAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2010-01-12 9:19 (13 days old)
First-Bad-Commit: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=9e726b17422bade75fba94e625cd35fd1353e682
References : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=126328727021949&w=4
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15096
Subject : Resume lock up -- bisected, commit 3a1151e3f124fd1a2c54b8153f510f1a7c715369
Submitter : Rafał Miłecki <zajec5-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2010-01-20 23:15 (5 days old)
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15071
Subject : IBM/Lenovo Trackpoint speed, sensitivity reset after suspend if set via sysfs
Submitter : Marten Vance <kernel-srgEi2D3yJHR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2010-01-16 16:19 (9 days old)
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15042
Subject : socket(PF_INET6 hangs when ipv6 not yet initialized
Submitter : Marc Haber <mh+linux-kernel-ciUMMiFYEj8OIzVOb1FTxg@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2010-01-10 14:28 (15 days old)
References : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=126313553029280&w=4
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15021
Subject : agpgart sometimes fails to initialize sometimes
Submitter : Maciej Piechotka <uzytkownik2-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2010-01-09 23:31 (16 days old)
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15015
Subject : blank screen at random times in laptop when sitting idle
Submitter : Jithin Emmanuel <jithin1987-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2010-01-09 16:48 (16 days old)
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15004
Subject : i915: *ERROR* Execbuf while wedged
Submitter : tomas m <tmezzadra-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2010-01-07 18:53 (18 days old)
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14998
Subject : Caught 32-bit read from uninitialized memory in acpi_system_read_event
Submitter : Christian Casteyde <casteyde.christian-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2010-01-06 21:40 (19 days old)
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14997
Subject : Closing and re-opening the lid does not reactivate the backlight
Submitter : o. meijer <meijer.o-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2010-01-06 15:38 (19 days old)
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14943
Subject : nfs regression?
Submitter : Nikola Ciprich <extmaillist-Jp3n8lUXroTtwjQa/ONI9g@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-12-28 12:10 (28 days old)
References : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=126200276223524&w=4
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14939
Subject : drm: random hang with i915
Submitter : Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-12-07 17:30 (49 days old)
References : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=126020704125723&w=4
Handled-By : Jesse Barnes <jbarnes-Y1mF5jBUw70BENJcbMCuUQ@public.gmane.org>
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14933
Subject : OOM killer unexpectedly called
Submitter : A. Boulan <arnaud.boulan-TDf4sKD1mxeHlu7OokbhRg@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-12-24 23:42 (32 days old)
References : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=126169821317492&w=4
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14922
Subject : 2.6.32 seemed to have broken nVidia MCP7A sata controller
Submitter : Mike Cui <cuicui-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-12-19 6:13 (37 days old)
References : http://marc.info/?l=linux-ide&m=126120323407742&w=4
Handled-By : Jeff Garzik <jeff-o2qLIJkoznsdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Robert Hancock <hancockrwd-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14898
Subject : ksoftirqd problem
Submitter : Nico <segfault2-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-12-13 19:05 (43 days old)
References : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=126073114325690&w=4
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14897
Subject : i915: Commit 0e442c60 causes flickering
Submitter : David John <davidjon-XRr60H37pjdAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-12-09 17:26 (47 days old)
First-Bad-Commit: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=0e442c60dd39ac6924b11a20497734bd2303744c
References : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=126037889600769&w=4
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14895
Subject : BUG in kernel 2.6.32 when using luks encrypted root and RAID0..
Submitter : r4 <mk_4-aRb0bU7PRFPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-12-03 18:24 (53 days old)
References : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=125986664904751&w=4
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14894
Subject : pohmelfs: NULL pointer dereference
Submitter : Alexander Beregalov <a.beregalov-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-12-02 1:11 (54 days old)
References : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=125971633107940&w=4
Handled-By : Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr-i6C2adt8DTjR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14891
Subject : Deadlock regression related to NFS root
Submitter : Stephen R. van den Berg <srb-PCMv+cxZuL0@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-11-24 0:24 (62 days old)
References : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=125902279909452&w=4
Handled-By : Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust-HgOvQuBEEgTQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14886
Subject : Asus P2B-DS not detected as SMP moterboard
Submitter : Lorenzo Buzzi <flinco-VGgt2q2+T+FeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-12-27 17:20 (29 days old)
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14868
Subject : flood of "don't try to register things with the same name in the same directory." on upgrade to 2.6.32
Submitter : Rich Ercolani <rercola-YxllIAoeIHiVc3sceRu5cw@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-12-24 02:44 (32 days old)
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14817
Subject : When is system under load, then freeze/HD fail
Submitter : okias <d.okias-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-12-15 11:12 (41 days old)
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14783
Subject : Unhandled IRQ on Thinkpad R61i: "irq 16: nobody cared"
Submitter : Stefan Zegenhagen <sz-QdrG9jWwCLEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-12-10 19:14 (46 days old)
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14782
Subject : Suspend hangs Lenovo SL300 after gdm login
Submitter : Gary Trakhman <gary.trakhman-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-12-10 18:53 (46 days old)
First-Bad-Commit: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=03ba3782e8dcc5b0e1efe440d33084f066e38cae
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14748
Subject : e1000e NIC not working after reboot
Submitter : Maciek Sitarz <macieks-yngNwrTfnRnVItvQsEIGlw@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-12-06 13:04 (50 days old)
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14742
Subject : 2.6.32 new menu idle governor causes very high CPU temp
Submitter : <akwatts-DaQTI0RpDDMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-12-05 17:24 (51 days old)
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14695
Subject : regression in karmic thermal control
Submitter : Bugie <public-ZA6dAAr5zYM@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-11-26 08:45 (60 days old)
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14670
Subject : i915: playing video via XVideo extension makes the screen flicker
Submitter : Thomas Meyer <thomas-VsYtu1Qij5c@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-11-23 13:15 (63 days old)
First-Bad-Commit: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=b42d4c5c6a872815d711e5d51a600f5122c38eee
References : http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/1/11/150
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14667
Subject : bisected 2.6.32 EC regression - Temperatures not correctly detected after suspend - Dell Studio XPS 16 laptop
Submitter : Federico Chiacchiaretta <federico.chia-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-11-22 20:42 (64 days old)
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14657
Subject : perf subsystem breakage in 2.6.32-rc7
Submitter : Arjan van de Ven <arjan-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-11-19 19:50 (67 days old)
References : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=125866013419738&w=4
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14656
Subject : Oops at __rmqueue+0x98 with 2.6.32-rc6
Submitter : Lucas C. Villa Real <lucasvr-9gmU7qdNRpmhPH1hqNUYSQ@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-11-19 3:48 (67 days old)
References : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=125860255229092&w=4
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14625
Subject : Commit d451564 breaks ARM
Submitter : Russell King <rmk+lkml-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-11-13 15:11 (73 days old)
First-Bad-Commit: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=d4515646699b6ad7b1a98ceb871296b957f3ef47
References : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=125812520315835&w=4
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14624
Subject : ath9k: BUG kmalloc-8192: Poison overwritten
Submitter : Miles Lane <miles.lane-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-11-12 4:58 (74 days old)
References : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=125800196520396&w=4
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14621
Subject : specjbb2005 and aim7 regression with 2.6.32-rc kernels
Submitter : Zhang, Yanmin <yanmin_zhang-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-11-06 7:38 (80 days old)
References : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=125749310413174&w=4
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14504
Subject : intermittent hibernation problem again
Submitter : Ferenc Wágner <wferi-eEbw3PyuezQ@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-10-28 23:49 (89 days old)
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14487
Subject : PANIC: early exception 08 rip 246:10 error ffffffff810251b5 cr2 0
Submitter : Justin P. Mattock <justinmattock-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-10-23 16:45 (94 days old)
References : http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/10/23/252
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14482
Subject : kernel BUG at fs/dcache.c:670 +lvm +md +ext3
Submitter : Alexander Clouter <alex-L4GPcECwBoDe9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-10-23 10:30 (94 days old)
References : http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/10/23/50
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14442
Subject : resume after hibernate: /dev/sdb drops and returns as /dev/sde
Submitter : Duncan <1i5t5.duncan-j9pdmedNgrk@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-10-20 01:52 (97 days old)
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14426
Subject : CE: hpet increasing min_delta_ns flood
Submitter : Thibault Mondary <thibm-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-10-17 09:29 (100 days old)
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14417
Subject : [Regression] Wireless driver iwlagn+iwlcore doesn't work after resume (needs reloading)
Submitter : Eddy Petrișor <eddy.petrisor+linbug-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-10-16 11:07 (101 days old)
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14376
Subject : Kernel NULL pointer dereference/ kvm subsystem
Submitter : Don Dupuis <dondster-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-10-06 14:38 (111 days old)
References : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=125484025021737&w=4
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14298
Subject : warning at manage.c:361 (set_irq_wake), matrix-keypad related?
Submitter : Pavel Machek <pavel-+ZI9xUNit7I@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-09-30 20:07 (117 days old)
References : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=125434130703538&w=4
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14297
Subject : console resume broken since ba15ab0e8d
Submitter : Sascha Hauer <s.hauer-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2009-09-30 15:11 (117 days old)
References : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=125432349404060&w=4
Regressions with patches
------------------------
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15134
Subject : gobi_loader hangs after commit 8e8dce065088
Submitter : Matthew Garrett <mjg59-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2010-01-17 2:55 (8 days old)
References : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=126369696509502&w=4
Handled-By : Oliver Neukum <oliver-GvhC2dPhHPQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Alan Cox <alan-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
Patch : http://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/73878/
Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15040
Subject : High cpu temperature with 2.6.32
Submitter : Dimitrios Apostolou <jimis-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
Date : 2010-01-06 17:39 (19 days old)
References : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=126279952723036&w=4
Handled-By : Arjan van de Ven <arjan-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
Patch : http://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/71962/
For details, please visit the bug entries and follow the links given in
references.
As you can see, there is a Bugzilla entry for each of the listed regressions.
There also is a Bugzilla entry used for tracking the regressions introduced
between 2.6.31 and 2.6.32, unresolved as well as resolved, at:
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14230
Please let me know if there are any Bugzilla entries that should be added to
the list in there.
Thanks,
Rafael
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* Re: [Bug #15042] socket(PF_INET6 hangs when ipv6 not yet initialized
[not found] ` <q60Z28d_9yH.A.oqH.NZMXLB@chimera>
@ 2010-01-27 9:10 ` Américo Wang
2010-02-14 6:20 ` Marc Haber
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Américo Wang @ 2010-01-27 9:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rafael J. Wysocki
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List, Kernel Testers List, Marc Haber,
Linux Kernel Network Developers
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> This message has been generated automatically as a part of a report
> of regressions introduced between 2.6.31 and 2.6.32.
>
> The following bug entry is on the current list of known regressions
> introduced between 2.6.31 and 2.6.32. Please verify if it still should
> be listed and let me know (either way).
>
>
> Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15042
> Subject : socket(PF_INET6 hangs when ipv6 not yet initialized
> Submitter : Marc Haber <mh+linux-kernel@zugschlus.de>
> Date : 2010-01-10 14:28 (15 days old)
> References : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=126313553029280&w=4
>
(Adding net-dev into Cc)
Hi, Marc,
Sorry, I don't really understand your description of the problem, your mean
your ssh hangs on socket PF_INET6 for 30 seconds?
Have you enabled CONFIG_DETECT_SOFTLOCKUP for your kernel?
If not, please do it.
Thanks.
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* Re: [Bug #15042] socket(PF_INET6 hangs when ipv6 not yet initialized
2010-01-27 9:10 ` [Bug #15042] socket(PF_INET6 hangs when ipv6 not yet initialized Américo Wang
@ 2010-02-14 6:20 ` Marc Haber
0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Marc Haber @ 2010-02-14 6:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Américo Wang
Cc: Rafael J. Wysocki, Linux Kernel Mailing List, Kernel Testers List,
Linux Kernel Network Developers
Hi,
sorry for the late reply.
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 05:10:44PM +0800, Américo Wang wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl> wrote:
> > This message has been generated automatically as a part of a report
> > of regressions introduced between 2.6.31 and 2.6.32.
> >
> > The following bug entry is on the current list of known regressions
> > introduced between 2.6.31 and 2.6.32. Please verify if it still should
> > be listed and let me know (either way).
> >
> >
> > Bug-Entry : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15042
> > Subject : socket(PF_INET6 hangs when ipv6 not yet initialized
> > Submitter : Marc Haber <mh+linux-kernel@zugschlus.de>
> > Date : 2010-01-10 14:28 (15 days old)
> > References : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=126313553029280&w=4
> >
>
> (Adding net-dev into Cc)
>
> Hi, Marc,
>
> Sorry, I don't really understand your description of the problem, your mean
> your ssh hangs on socket PF_INET6 for 30 seconds?
No, it hangs on socket PF_INET6 indefinetely (max time I waited was
like ten minutes), ignoring SIGTERM while hanging. This does only
happen if the sshd is started within seconds of the ipv6 module being
loaded (or the Interface being brought up), so I guess that the kernel
needs to be in a state where it already thinks that it has IPv6 but
hasn't completed autoconfiguration yet.
To obtain an strace, I had to use timeout --signal=9 30. The
virtualbox process this happens inside takes all host CPU while the
ssh process hangs.
> Have you enabled CONFIG_DETECT_SOFTLOCKUP for your kernel?
yes, that's enabled.
Greetings
Marc
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