From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
herbert.xu@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
hch@infradead.org, arjan@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] [RFC] AF_RXRPC socket family implementation [try #2]
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:41:38 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <25752.1174318898@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070319152959.46a81e57@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
> > > Other RPC types use normal socket types.
> >
> > They do? Examples please. I didn't think Linux, at least, has any other
> > RPC socket families, though I could be wrong as I haven't made a thorough
> > study of them.
>
> SunRPC is implemented in user space and uses the existing TCP/IP layer
> and socket types, even though it is using them in an RPC manner and
> viewed at the RPC layer they are RPCs
SunRPC is not then a suitable analogy. There is no socket interface that
provides SunRPC as far as I know, so your example is invalid. Yes, SunRPC is
built on top of something else, SOCK_DGRAM, SOCK_STREAM or whatever, but that's
like saying TCP is a datagram service rather than a stream service because it's
built on a datagram service (IP). What a protocol uses out the back is pretty
much irrelevant - what is relevant is what the protocol in question actually
appears to provide to anyone using it.
> > I have made my client sockets use connect(), but that's just a
> > convenience and I need to make it possible to avoid doing that to
> > make it useful to the kernel. It's similar to SOCK_DGRAM sockets in
> > this respect.
>
> So use SOCK_DGRAM, its clearly near enough.
No, it's not. SOCK_DGRAM is an unreliable, unidirectional datagram passing
service.
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-03-19 15:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-03-16 12:50 [PATCH 0/5] [RFC] AF_RXRPC socket family implementation [try #2] David Howells
2007-03-16 12:50 ` [PATCH 1/5] AF_RXRPC: Add blkcipher accessors for using kernel data directly " David Howells
2007-03-16 13:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-03-16 13:57 ` David Howells
2007-03-16 15:12 ` Alan Cox
2007-03-16 14:19 ` David Howells
2007-03-16 12:50 ` [PATCH 2/5] AF_RXRPC: Move generic skbuff stuff from XFRM code to generic code " David Howells
2007-03-16 13:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-03-16 12:50 ` [PATCH 3/5] AF_RXRPC: Make it possible to merely try to cancel timers and delayed work " David Howells
2007-03-16 15:07 ` Alan Cox
2007-03-16 14:22 ` David Howells
2007-03-16 12:50 ` [PATCH 4/5] AF_RXRPC: Key facility changes for AF_RXRPC " David Howells
2007-03-16 13:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-03-16 14:15 ` David Howells
2007-03-16 13:40 ` [PATCH 0/5] [RFC] AF_RXRPC socket family implementation " Christoph Hellwig
2007-03-16 15:13 ` Alan Cox
2007-03-16 14:23 ` David Howells
2007-03-16 15:34 ` Alan Cox
2007-03-16 15:14 ` David Howells
2007-03-16 17:11 ` Alan Cox
2007-03-18 6:32 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-03-18 14:23 ` Alan Cox
2007-03-19 11:56 ` David Howells
2007-03-19 13:04 ` Alan Cox
2007-03-19 12:59 ` David Howells
2007-03-19 15:29 ` Alan Cox
2007-03-19 15:41 ` David Howells [this message]
2007-03-19 19:03 ` Alan Cox
2007-03-20 11:16 ` David Howells
2007-03-19 19:19 ` David Miller
2007-03-20 13:16 ` David Howells
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