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From: Chuck Lever <cel@kernel.org>
To: Sabrina Dubroca <sd@queasysnail.net>
Cc: john.fastabend@gmail.com, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, kernel-tls-handshake@lists.linux.dev,
	Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH PATCH net-next v4 8/8] tls: Enable batch async decryption in read_sock
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2026 08:44:57 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <26496470-4868-4cd0-8d10-bd8b1a3f1473@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <acHDJNNqZlFIm84n@krikkit>

On 3/23/26 6:48 PM, Sabrina Dubroca wrote:
> 2026-03-23, 17:28:27 -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2026, at 11:04 AM, Chuck Lever wrote:
>>> From: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
>>>
>>> tls_sw_read_sock() decrypts one TLS record at a time, blocking until
>>> each AEAD operation completes before proceeding. Hardware async
>>> crypto engines depend on pipelining multiple operations to achieve
>>> full throughput, and the one-at-a-time model prevents that. Kernel
>>> consumers such as NVMe-TCP and NFSD (when using TLS) are therefore
>>> unable to benefit from hardware offload.
>>>
>>> When ctx->async_capable is true, the submit phase now loops up to
>>> TLS_READ_SOCK_BATCH (16) records.
>>
>> It appears that async_capable is always false for TLSv1.3. Since
>> TLSv1.3 is a hard requirement for both NVMe/TCP and RPC-with-TLS,
>> patch 8/8 is moot for us. For the moment, I'm going to drop this
>> one from the series.
> 
> Then 7/8 is also not useful, and the series boils down to a few small> improvements (tls_decrypt_async_drain, spurious wakeups, checking the
> backlog), which are not limited to read_sock. [nothing wrong with
> that, it's just a different focus from what you started with]

I think that's accurate. I can adjust the cover letter for v5.


>> Once Alistair's KeyUpdate work is merged, we can revisit.
> 
> Are you planning to add support for async crypto with TLS1.3?
async crypto would be a pre-requisite requirement for batching
decryption for TLS v1.3. At the moment I'm not planning to add
that support, but we should discuss it once KeyUpdate is merged.


-- 
Chuck Lever

      reply	other threads:[~2026-03-24 12:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-17 15:04 [PATCH net-next v4 0/8] TLS read_sock performance scalability Chuck Lever
2026-03-17 15:04 ` [PATCH PATCH net-next v4 1/8] tls: Factor tls_decrypt_async_drain() from recvmsg Chuck Lever
2026-03-17 19:55   ` Breno Leitao
2026-03-19 17:21   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2026-03-20  1:03     ` Chuck Lever
2026-03-17 15:04 ` [PATCH PATCH net-next v4 2/8] tls: Abort the connection on decrypt failure Chuck Lever
2026-03-23 10:22   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2026-03-17 15:04 ` [PATCH PATCH net-next v4 3/8] tls: Fix dangling skb pointer in tls_sw_read_sock() Chuck Lever
2026-03-17 15:04 ` [PATCH PATCH net-next v4 4/8] tls: Factor tls_strp_msg_release() from tls_strp_msg_done() Chuck Lever
2026-03-17 15:04 ` [PATCH PATCH net-next v4 5/8] tls: Suppress spurious saved_data_ready on all receive paths Chuck Lever
2026-03-23 10:32   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2026-03-17 15:04 ` [PATCH PATCH net-next v4 6/8] tls: Flush backlog before waiting for a new record Chuck Lever
2026-03-17 15:04 ` [PATCH PATCH net-next v4 7/8] tls: Restructure tls_sw_read_sock() into submit/deliver phases Chuck Lever
2026-03-23 11:31   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2026-03-17 15:04 ` [PATCH PATCH net-next v4 8/8] tls: Enable batch async decryption in read_sock Chuck Lever
2026-03-23 14:14   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2026-03-23 15:04     ` Chuck Lever
2026-03-23 23:08       ` Sabrina Dubroca
2026-03-24 13:17         ` Chuck Lever
2026-03-24 22:58           ` Sabrina Dubroca
2026-03-23 15:53     ` Chuck Lever
2026-03-23 21:28   ` Chuck Lever
2026-03-23 21:41     ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-23 22:48     ` Sabrina Dubroca
2026-03-24 12:44       ` Chuck Lever [this message]

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