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From: Murali Karicheri <m-karicheri2@ti.com>
To: Vinicius Costa Gomes <vinicius.gomes@intel.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, <olteanv@gmail.com>,
	<intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org>, <jeffrey.t.kirsher@intel.com>,
	<netdev@vger.kernel.org>, <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>,
	<po.liu@nxp.com>, <Jose.Abreu@synopsys.com>
Subject: Re: [next-queue RFC 0/4] ethtool: Add support for frame preemption
Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 12:34:30 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <29959a1a-fc45-6870-fa11-311866b51aa0@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h7wcq4nx.fsf@intel.com>



On 5/18/20 6:06 PM, Vinicius Costa Gomes wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> writes:
>>
>> Please take a look at the example from the cover letter:
>>
>> $ ethtool $ sudo ./ethtool --show-frame-preemption
>> enp3s0 Frame preemption settings for enp3s0:
>> 	support: supported
>> 	active: active
>> 	supported queues: 0xf
>> 	supported queues: 0xe
>> 	minimum fragment size: 68
>>
>> Reading this I have no idea what 0xe is. I have to go and query TC API
>> to see what priorities and queues that will be. Which IMHO is a strong
>> argument that this information belongs there in the first place.
> 
> That was the (only?) strong argument in favor of having frame preemption
> in the TC side when this was last discussed.
> 
> We can have a hybrid solution, we can move the express/preemptible per
> queue map to mqprio/taprio/whatever. And have the more specific
> configuration knobs, minimum fragment size, etc, in ethtool.

Isn't this a pure h/w feature? FPE is implemented at L2 and involves
fragments that are only seen by h/w and never at Linux network core
unlike IP fragments and is transparent to network stack. However it
enhances priority handling at h/w to the next level by pre-empting 
existing lower priority traffic to give way to express queue traffic
and improve latency. So everything happens in h/w. So ethtool makes
perfect sense here as it is a queue configuration. I agree with Vinicius
and Vladmir to support this in ethtool instead of TC.

Murali
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 

-- 
Murali Karicheri
Texas Instruments

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-05-19 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-16  1:29 [next-queue RFC 0/4] ethtool: Add support for frame preemption Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-16  1:29 ` [next-queue RFC 1/4] ethtool: Add support for configuring " Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-19 15:27   ` Murali Karicheri
2020-05-16  1:29 ` [next-queue RFC 2/4] ethtool: Add support for configuring frame preemption via netlink Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-16  1:29 ` [next-queue RFC 3/4] igc: Add support for configuring frame preemption Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-19 16:36   ` Murali Karicheri
2020-05-16  1:29 ` [next-queue RFC 4/4] igc: Add support for exposing frame preemption stats registers Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-20 12:50   ` Murali Karicheri
2020-05-16  9:33 ` [next-queue RFC 0/4] ethtool: Add support for frame preemption Michal Kubecek
2020-05-18 19:34   ` Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-19 22:40     ` Andre Guedes
2020-05-19 22:53       ` Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-16 20:37 ` David Miller
2020-05-16 21:03   ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-05-16 22:19     ` David Miller
2020-05-17 10:51       ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-05-17 18:45         ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-17 19:04           ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-05-18 19:05       ` Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-18 20:56         ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-18 22:06           ` Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-18 22:22             ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-18 23:05               ` Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-18 23:09                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-20 21:42                   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Andre Guedes
2020-05-20 22:35                     ` Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-19 16:34             ` Murali Karicheri [this message]
2020-05-19 17:49               ` Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-17 15:06 ` Michael Walle
2020-05-18 13:36   ` Murali Karicheri
2020-05-19 20:41     ` Michael Walle
2020-05-19 14:53 ` Murali Karicheri
2020-05-19 15:32   ` Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-19 16:11     ` Murali Karicheri
2020-05-19 22:39 ` Andre Guedes
2020-05-19 23:37   ` Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-20 12:47     ` Murali Karicheri
2020-05-20 12:52     ` Joergen Andreasen
2020-05-20 21:32       ` Vinicius Costa Gomes

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