From: Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: netdev-bot+sashiko@kernel.org, kuba@kernel.org,
davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, pabeni@redhat.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 2/3] selftests: drv-net: pause: Validate the pause autonegotiation with a partner
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2026 16:02:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2a008b68-7f8f-4b30-8026-58d8a64ae5d1@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45340f54-a53b-4d3a-a773-b51cfc88c939@lunn.ch>
On 10/13/26 14:37, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>>> Firmware-managed NICs such as ice also keep the link on close by default.
>>> In drivers/net/ethernet/intel/ice/ice_main.c, the PHY is only taken down
>>> on close when ICE_FLAG_LINK_DOWN_ON_CLOSE_ENA is set:
>>>
>>> if (test_bit(ICE_FLAG_LINK_DOWN_ON_CLOSE_ENA, vsi->back->flags)) {
>>> int link_err = ice_phy_cfg(vsi, false);
>>>
>>> On this kind of hardware, a directly connected peer would be cached as
>>> cfg.lp_controllable = False. pause_aneg_resolution(), and the four later
>>> tests in the series, would then skip with "is not directly connected".
>>> That message points at cabling, when the real cause is that the PHY
>>> stayed powered.
>>>
>>> The new remote lp_advertising checks in pause_advertising_test() would
>>> also be skipped without any notice.
>>
>> Not much we can do if the peer doesn't behave as expected here. Not sure this
>> requires attention.
>
> I sounds like anything with a BMC is going to hit this. So i doubt you
> will see it with your stmmac boards. Maybe sometime in the future we
> can query the NIC to see if it supports NCSI and change the test
> behaviour to fit?
Maybe the strategy is wrong then, the goal is to check that we're directly
connected to our test peer through a cable, or indirectly through a switch.
Link flapping seemed to me like the most generic solution, but maybe we can
do something entirely different ? Like for example trigger a re-negotiation
with ethtool -r and check for link flap, or maybe more reliably, ask the user
to pass a flag to the selftest command saying if yes or no we're directly
connected ?
Maxime
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-13 14:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-25 18:26 [PATCH net-next v2 0/3] selftests: drv-net: Introduce flow-control selftest Maxime Chevallier (Netdev Foundation)
2026-09-25 18:26 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/3] selftests: drv-net: Introduce a selftest for ethtool flow control Maxime Chevallier (Netdev Foundation)
2026-09-29 3:26 ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-10-13 9:04 ` Maxime Chevallier
2026-10-13 12:29 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-09-25 18:26 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/3] selftests: drv-net: pause: Validate the pause autonegotiation with a partner Maxime Chevallier (Netdev Foundation)
2026-09-29 3:26 ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-10-13 9:35 ` Maxime Chevallier
2026-10-13 12:37 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-10-13 14:02 ` Maxime Chevallier [this message]
2026-10-13 14:49 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-09-25 18:26 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/3] selftests: drv-net: pause: Validate pause autoneg interactions with link autoneg Maxime Chevallier (Netdev Foundation)
2026-09-29 3:26 ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-09-30 23:07 ` [PATCH net-next v2 0/3] selftests: drv-net: Introduce flow-control selftest Jakub Kicinski
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