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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] Security: Implement disablenetwork semantics. (v4)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 09:28:43 -0500
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Cc: Michael Stone <michael@laptop.org>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
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	Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr@ioremap.net>,
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	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	Samir Bellabes <sam@synack.fr>,
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	Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
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On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:59:27 +0100, Pavel Machek said:

> Well, maybe, but mailer system where first user starts is as a daemon
> makes sense...

Does it?  How do you get port 25 open for listening if the first user isn't
root?  Most *actual* schemes to "launch at first use" that require privs for
something have used inetd or similar - that program exists for a *reason*.

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