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From: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
To: jamal <hadi@cyberus.ca>
Cc: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com>,
	kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru, netdev@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: PATCH Re: udp weirdness
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 11:54:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D99EF6C.9030509@candelatech.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.GSO.4.30.0210011433300.18461-100000@shell.cyberus.ca

jamal wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Chris Friesen wrote:
> 
> 
>>to be silently dropped by the kernel because userspace is sending faster
>>than they can get onto the wire during that tight loop.
>>
> 
> 
> So what happens when you find packets being dropped?
> AFAIK, a dropped voice packet is as good as dead whether local or remote.

If it is dropped locally, you can re-send in way less than 1 milisecond,
which is well within the realm of expected jitter.  You can also back off
for 5 miliseconds to alleviate congestion, which is still within acceptable
jitter.

If you think you sent it, but didn't actually send it, then it looks like
your network is shitting, when in fact your local machine is acting shitty.

Ben

> 
> 
>>Okay, so with IP_RECVERR set the case that Eric saw will not happen?  I
>>mean that sendto() will return with -1 and errno set to ENOBUFS?
> 
> 
> yes
> 
> cheers,
> jamal
> 


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  reply	other threads:[~2002-10-01 18:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-24  6:50 udp weirdness Eric Lemoine
2002-09-27 12:02 ` Eric Lemoine
2002-09-27 14:53   ` jamal
2002-09-27 15:04     ` Matti Aarnio
2002-09-29 14:47       ` jamal
2002-09-30  8:49         ` Eric Lemoine
2002-09-30 11:09           ` jamal
2002-09-30 12:10           ` jamal
2002-09-30 12:23             ` jamal
2002-10-01  0:22               ` PATCH " jamal
2002-10-01  6:35                 ` Eric Lemoine
2002-10-01  9:51                   ` jamal
2002-10-01 13:53                 ` kuznet
2002-10-01 14:14                   ` jamal
2002-10-01 14:26                   ` Chris Friesen
2002-10-01 14:40                     ` kuznet
2002-10-01 14:52                       ` Chris Friesen
2002-10-01 15:31                         ` kuznet
2002-10-01 16:16                           ` Chris Friesen
2002-10-01 16:41                             ` kuznet
2002-10-01 17:17                               ` Chris Friesen
2002-10-01 16:42                           ` Ben Greear
2002-10-01 16:58                             ` Chris Friesen
2002-10-01 17:55                             ` jamal
2002-10-01 18:36                               ` Chris Friesen
2002-10-01 18:35                                 ` jamal
2002-10-01 18:54                                   ` Ben Greear [this message]
2002-10-01 19:03                                   ` Chris Friesen
2002-10-01 18:52                               ` Ben Greear
2002-10-02 11:13                           ` Eric Lemoine
2002-10-02 14:09                             ` Chris Friesen
2002-10-02 15:25                             ` Ben Greear
2002-10-03 15:58                               ` Eric Lemoine
2002-10-03 16:29                                 ` kuznet
2002-09-27 15:19     ` Eric Lemoine
2002-09-27 15:57     ` Eric Lemoine

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