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From: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
Cc: terje.eggestad@scali.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@oss.sgi.com, linux-net@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: anyone ever done multicast AF_UNIX sockets?
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 14:11:07 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E63A8CB.2090307@nortelnetworks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20030303.095641.87696857.davem@redhat.com

David S. Miller wrote:
>    From: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com>
>    Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 13:07:45 -0500
>    
>    Suppose I have a process that waits on UDP packets, the unified local 
>    IPC that we're discussing, other unix sockets, and stdin.  It's awfully 
>    nice if the local IPC can be handled using the same select/poll 
>    mechanism as all the other messaging.
> 
> So use UDP, you still haven't backed up your performance
> claims.  Experiment, set the SO_NO_CHECK socket option to
> "1" and see if that makes a difference performance wise
> for local clients.

I did provide numbers for UDP latency, which is more critical for my own 
application since most messages fit within a single packet.  I haven't 
done UDP bandwidth testing--I need to check how lmbench did it for the 
unix socket and do the same for UDP.  Local TCP was far slower than unix 
sockets though.

> But if performance is "so important", then you shouldn't really be
> shying away from the shared memory suggestion and nothing is going to
> top that (it eliminates all the copies, using flat out AF_UNIX over
> UDP only truly eliminates some header processing, nothing more, the
> copies are still there with AF_UNIX).

Yes, I realize that the receiver still has to do a copy.  With large 
messages this could be an issue.  With small messages, I had assumed 
that the cost of a recv() wouldn't be that much worse than the cost of 
the sender doing a kill() to alert the receiver that a message is 
waiting.  Maybe I was wrong.

It might be interesting to try a combination of sysV msg queue and 
signals to see how it stacks up.  Project for tonight.

Chris





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  reply	other threads:[~2003-03-03 19:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-02-27 20:09 anyone ever done multicast AF_UNIX sockets? Chris Friesen
2003-02-27 22:21 ` Greg Daley
2003-02-28 13:33 ` jamal
2003-02-28 14:39   ` Chris Friesen
2003-03-01  3:18     ` jamal
2003-03-02  6:03       ` Chris Friesen
2003-03-02 14:11         ` jamal
2003-03-03 18:02           ` Chris Friesen
2003-03-03 12:51 ` Terje Eggestad
2003-03-03 12:35   ` David S. Miller
2003-03-03 17:09   ` Chris Friesen
2003-03-03 16:55     ` David S. Miller
2003-03-03 18:07       ` Chris Friesen
2003-03-03 17:56         ` David S. Miller
2003-03-03 19:11           ` Chris Friesen [this message]
2003-03-03 18:56             ` David S. Miller
2003-03-03 19:42               ` Terje Eggestad
2003-03-03 21:32                 ` Chris Friesen
2003-03-03 23:38                   ` Terje Eggestad
2003-03-03 19:39     ` Terje Eggestad
2003-03-03 22:29       ` Chris Friesen
2003-03-03 23:29         ` Terje Eggestad
2003-03-04  2:38           ` jamal
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2003-03-03 18:18             ` Andi Kleen

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