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From: Nivedita Singhvi <niv@us.ibm.com>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
Cc: girouard@us.ibm.com, stekloff@us.ibm.com, janiceg@us.ibm.com,
	jgarzik@pobox.com, lkessler@us.ibm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: patch for common networking error messages
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 17:07:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3EEE5BA8.8000601@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030616.155251.25131382.davem@redhat.com>

David S. Miller wrote:

> There would be absolutely ZERO disruption if you guys would use you
> brains and implement what you're actually trying to achieve, a system
> event logging mechanism.

> We have a message queueing mechanism using sockets, called netlink,
> and you can make whatever actions in the kernel you think should be
> monitored go and stuff messages into this system event netlink socket.

I should clarify here that I was speaking strictly for my lonesome sorry
self :), and have no knowledge of what the state of the various
RAS projects currently are, and the approaches they are trying..
For all I know, they may be currently trying precisely that..

Janice's patch is the first I've seen in this area (Luckily,
most of the time they keep me in a cave :) :)), and I do
appreciate *something* being done in this area, it seemed a
good start and really, I dont care how its implemented, I'll
leave that to the folks who have spent longer than the
8 mins I currently have on it..

> Then, you don't have to standardize a bunch of absolutely silly
> strings (I mean, the concept is so incredibly stupid), you get events
> that are in a precisely defined format going over this netlink socket.

Well, right now, thats all we have, right? Silly strings? But
thats not really my position, which is more like:
Whatever! Whatever! Somebody! Make it so! :) :).

> Then whoever in userspace reads out the messages can interpret them
> however the fuck it wants to.  It is then trivial to parse the
> messages and filter them.  Furthermore, you could even transmit such
> messages over a network connection to a remote logging server as-is.
> 
> And hey, look, for network links going up and down we have the hooks
> already.  Funny that...

OK, that is a good idea.. :)

thanks,
Nivedita

  reply	other threads:[~2003-06-17  0:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-06-16 22:29 patch for common networking error messages Janice Girouard
2003-06-16 22:27 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-16 22:45   ` Nivedita Singhvi
2003-06-16 22:52     ` David S. Miller
2003-06-17  0:07       ` Nivedita Singhvi [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-06-17 20:57 Janice Girouard
2003-06-17 21:14 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-17 20:40 Janice Girouard
2003-06-17 20:42 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-17  2:12 Janice Girouard
2003-06-17  4:34 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-06-17 16:08   ` Stephen Hemminger
2003-06-17 16:09     ` David S. Miller
2003-06-17 18:46       ` Jeff Garzik
2003-06-17 19:06         ` Janice M Girouard
2003-06-17 19:23           ` Jeff Garzik
2003-06-17 19:46             ` Janice M Girouard
2003-06-17 19:50               ` David S. Miller
2003-06-17 20:24                 ` Janice M Girouard
2003-06-17 20:27                   ` David S. Miller
2003-06-17  0:44 Janice Girouard
2003-06-17  1:19 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-17 14:34   ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2003-06-16 22:50 Janice Girouard
2003-06-16 22:55 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-21 12:36   ` Alan Cox
2003-06-21 14:27     ` Jamal Hadi
2003-06-23  0:46     ` David S. Miller
2003-06-23 11:54       ` Alan Cox
2003-06-16 20:30 Janice M Girouard
2003-06-16 20:38 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-16 20:53   ` Andi Kleen
2003-06-16 20:51     ` David S. Miller
2003-06-16 22:27       ` Andrew Morton
2003-06-17  7:09         ` Andi Kleen
2003-06-17  7:20           ` Andrew Morton
2003-06-16 20:59   ` Janice M Girouard
2003-06-16 22:48     ` Jeff Garzik
2003-06-16 22:52       ` Jeff Garzik
2003-06-16 22:13 ` Nivedita Singhvi
2003-06-16 22:13   ` David S. Miller
2003-06-16 22:50     ` Nivedita Singhvi
2003-06-16 22:57       ` David S. Miller
2003-06-16 23:02   ` Donald Becker

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