Here is a patch that is a cleaned up version of something I sent a while back. This adds the ability to query a device to see if it is a vlan device by asking for the vlan's parent device. One can deduce that a querried interface is not a VLAN by looking at the IOCTL error code. Patch is against 2.4.22-pre9, compile tested and extracted from a run-time tested patch. Thanks, Ben -- Ben Greear Candela Technologies Inc http://www.candelatech.com