From: Waiman Long <llong@redhat.com>
To: Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@google.com>,
Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
Cc: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
"Daniel Sedlak" <daniel.sedlak@cdn77.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
"Simon Horman" <horms@kernel.org>,
"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
"Neal Cardwell" <ncardwell@google.com>,
"David Ahern" <dsahern@kernel.org>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Yosry Ahmed" <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@kernel.org>,
"Roman Gushchin" <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
"Muchun Song" <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
"Matyas Hurtik" <matyas.hurtik@cdn77.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] memcg: expose socket memory pressure in a cgroup
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2025 14:41:38 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3db01bc9-f6ea-41f7-8cbf-fb33e522694a@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAVpQUBwS3DFs9BENNNgkKFcMtc7tjZBA0PZ-EZ0WY+dCw8hrA@mail.gmail.com>
On 7/22/25 2:27 PM, Kuniyuki Iwashima wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 10:50 AM Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev> wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 10:57:31AM +0200, Michal Koutný wrote:
>>> Hello Daniel.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 09:11:46AM +0200, Daniel Sedlak <daniel.sedlak@cdn77.com> wrote:
>>>> /sys/fs/cgroup/**/<cgroup name>/memory.net.socket_pressure
>>>>
>>>> The output value is an integer matching the internal semantics of the
>>>> struct mem_cgroup for socket_pressure. It is a periodic re-arm clock,
>>>> representing the end of the said socket memory pressure, and once the
>>>> clock is re-armed it is set to jiffies + HZ.
>>> I don't find it ideal to expose this value in its raw form that is
>>> rather an implementation detail.
>>>
>>> IIUC, the information is possibly valid only during one jiffy interval.
>>> How would be the userspace consuming this?
>>>
>>> I'd consider exposing this as a cummulative counter in memory.stat for
>>> simplicity (or possibly cummulative time spent in the pressure
>>> condition).
>>>
>>> Shakeel, how useful is this vmpressure per-cgroup tracking nowadays? I
>>> thought it's kind of legacy.
>>
>> Yes vmpressure is legacy and we should not expose raw underlying number
>> to the userspace. How about just 0 or 1 and use
>> mem_cgroup_under_socket_pressure() underlying? In future if we change
>> the underlying implementation, the output of this interface should be
>> consistent.
> But this is available only for 1 second, and it will not be useful
> except for live debugging ?
If the new interface is used mainly for debugging purpose, I will
suggest adding the CFTYPE_DEBUG flag so that it will only show up when
"cgroup_debug" is specified in the kernel command line.
Cheers,
Longman
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-22 18:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-22 7:11 [PATCH v3] memcg: expose socket memory pressure in a cgroup Daniel Sedlak
2025-07-22 7:17 ` Eric Dumazet
2025-07-22 7:27 ` Daniel Sedlak
2025-07-22 8:57 ` Michal Koutný
2025-07-22 17:50 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-07-22 18:27 ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-22 18:41 ` Waiman Long [this message]
2025-07-22 18:49 ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-22 19:05 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-07-22 19:58 ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-22 20:11 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-07-22 22:10 ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-23 8:38 ` Michal Koutný
2025-07-23 8:58 ` Daniel Sedlak
2025-07-23 17:54 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-07-24 8:43 ` Daniel Sedlak
2025-07-25 0:44 ` Tejun Heo
2025-07-28 11:29 ` Daniel Sedlak
2025-07-30 0:15 ` Tejun Heo
2025-07-23 8:41 ` Daniel Sedlak
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