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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Guenter Roeck" <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	"Daniel Golle" <daniel@makrotopia.org>
Cc: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@kernel.org>, "Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	"Vladimir Oltean" <olteanv@gmail.com>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: dsa: MxL862xx: don't force-enable MAXLINEAR_GPHY
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2026 15:24:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3deb6138-e331-4e35-bc56-653a0a741a46@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9d7aee5a-ac46-47d9-ac26-0f3a63b6a8ab@roeck-us.net>

On Sat, Feb 21, 2026, at 02:25, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On 2/16/26 08:27, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2026, at 17:22, Daniel Golle wrote:
>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2026 at 08:20:41AM -0800, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>> 
>> What I meant above is that I had considered and rejected the extra
>> dependencies in the ethernet driver. I don't think there is a good
>> way to add inline helpers. Technically, one could use IS_REACHABLE()
>> here, to stub out the functions when the caller is built-in, but
>> I find that even worse because it replaces a trivial build-time
>> failure with very subtle runtime bug.
>> 
>
> Lots of kernel APIs have dummy implementations. hwmon isn't really that
> different to those. Also, arguably, that would not be a subtle runtime
> bug but a feature.

I would argue that all of them are wrong. I currently count 33 uses
of IS_REACHABLE() in header files, which is not a lot, but I would
prefer replacing these with proper Kconfig dependencies than to
add more for cases we already handle correctly.

     Arnd

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-02-21 14:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-16 10:55 [PATCH] net: dsa: MxL862xx: don't force-enable MAXLINEAR_GPHY Arnd Bergmann
2026-02-16 12:15 ` Daniel Golle
2026-02-16 12:26   ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-02-16 15:17   ` Guenter Roeck
2026-02-16 15:34     ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-02-16 16:20       ` Guenter Roeck
2026-02-16 16:22         ` Daniel Golle
2026-02-16 16:27           ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-02-21  1:25             ` Guenter Roeck
2026-02-21  2:05               ` Daniel Golle
2026-02-21 14:24               ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2026-02-18  1:20 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf

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