In the udp case, I when I listen for multicast packets my app only receives them when I am running a tcpdump (bizarre!).Russ, This piece (which I expect has nothing to do with the other problems you mentioned) sounds like you haven't joined the groups on the interface on which you're receiving the multicast packets. "tcpdump" will place the interface in "promiscuous mode" which will receive all packets, and ordinary packet delivery will allow the application to receive them, even if you haven't joined the group on the relevant interface. To verify if the group joins is broken, you can look at /proc/net/igmp. If the groups you're joining are not listed on the interface you want, the program isn't joining the groups correctly. Group membership is per-interface, so joining a group on one interface does not join it on another. Feel free to contact me if you need some help debugging the multicast problem. +-DLS