From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: jt@hpl.hp.com
Cc: netdev@oss.sgi.com, Gertjan van Wingerde <gwingerde@home.nl>,
sfeldma@pobox.com, jkmaline@cc.hut.fi
Subject: Re: [RFC] Wireless extensions rethink
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 15:34:22 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <40D1F23E.9090307@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040617191338.GD32216@bougret.hpl.hp.com>
Jean Tourrilhes wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 03:02:49PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>
>>Jean Tourrilhes wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 02:26:20PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Note that the above is only a first step. Through the standard Linux
>>>>development process -- evolution -- each hook can be pared down to
>>>>precisely what each call needs. The above allows for a quick transition
>>>>of drivers, while keeping them working.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>> Have you looked at the patch I sent you ? In which way does it
>>>fails to meet your need ?
>>
>>
>>The three major problems I listed in a previous email are still
>>present...
>
>
> Are we talking of the same patch ? I'm talking of this patch :
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-netdev&m=108749580004668&w=2
> I reattached the patch below. It's short enough.
Your patch is half the job -- it allows development of a type-specific
interface... but it does nothing to address the problems with the
underlying type-opaque interface.
The creation of the type-specific interface replaces the type-opaque
interface, not layers on top of it.
So while this patch may be useful in early development, it does not
allow the direct exposure of core wireless code to the type-specific
interfaces, and as such, it can paper over problems that would be
immediately obviously if the type-specific interface were the only one
to exist.
>> Also there is a fourth -- WE doesn't work 100% when you have
>>a 32-bit userland and a 64-bit kernel.
>
>
> Since when ? What made you change your mind ?
> Please check :
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-netdev&m=107894322418086&w=2
The general API, yes. But most driver-private interfaces will fail
miserably through 32/64-bit translation.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-06-17 19:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-06-11 18:49 [RFC] Wireless extensions rethink Feldman, Scott
2004-06-15 16:39 ` Gertjan van Wingerde
2004-06-15 17:22 ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2004-06-16 9:13 ` Scott Feldman
2004-06-16 15:28 ` Gerald Britton
2004-06-16 17:40 ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2004-06-16 17:53 ` Scott Feldman
2004-06-16 19:06 ` Gerald Britton
2004-06-17 5:57 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2004-06-16 17:46 ` Gertjan van Wingerde
2004-06-16 19:06 ` Scott Feldman
2004-06-16 19:49 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-16 22:25 ` Scott Feldman
2004-06-16 20:50 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2004-06-16 20:42 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2004-06-16 21:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-16 22:33 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2004-06-16 23:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-16 23:11 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2004-06-17 17:47 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2004-06-17 18:23 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-17 18:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-17 18:30 ` Gertjan van Wingerde
2004-06-17 18:51 ` Stephen Hemminger
2004-06-17 19:00 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2004-06-17 19:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-17 18:58 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2004-06-17 19:02 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-17 19:13 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2004-06-17 19:34 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2004-06-17 19:44 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2004-06-17 20:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-17 20:39 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2004-06-17 18:56 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2004-06-17 19:09 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-17 19:11 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-17 19:31 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2004-06-17 19:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-17 20:46 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2004-06-18 22:11 ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-18 22:54 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-16 22:48 ` Scott Feldman
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-06-07 19:51 Gertjan van Wingerde
2004-06-07 20:52 ` Ben Greear
2004-06-07 18:33 Feldman, Scott
2004-06-07 18:39 ` Stephen Hemminger
2004-06-08 11:19 ` Herbert Xu
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