From: P@draigBrady.com
To: hadi@cyberus.ca
Cc: mellia@prezzemolo.polito.it,
Robert Olsson <Robert.Olsson@data.slu.se>,
e1000-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Jorge Manuel Finochietto <jorge.finochietto@polito.it>,
Giulio Galante <galante@polito.it>,
netdev@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [E1000-devel] Transmission limit
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:19:31 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <41AAF7B3.8080204@draigBrady.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1101499285.1079.45.camel@jzny.localdomain>
jamal wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 11:57, P@draigBrady.com wrote:
>
>
>>>skb are de/allocated using standard kernel memory management. Still,
>>>without touching the packet, we can receive 100% of them.
>>
>>I was doing some playing in this area this week.
>>I changed the alloc per packet to a "realloc" per packet.
>>I.E. the e1000 driver owns the packets. I noticed a
>>very nice speedup from this. In summary a userspace
>>app was able to receive 2x250Kpps without this patch,
>>and 2x490Kpps with it. The patch is here:
>>http://www.pixelbeat.org/tmp/linux-2.4.20-pb.diff
>
>
> A very angry gorilla on that url ;->
feck. Add a .gz
http://www.pixelbeat.org/tmp/linux-2.4.20-pb.diff.gz
>>Note 99% of that patch is just upgrading from
>>e1000 V4.4.12-k1 to V5.2.52 (which doesn't affect
>>the performance).
>>
>>Wow I just read you're excellent paper, and noticed
>>you used this approach also :-)
>>
>
>
> Have to read the paper - When Robert was last visiting here; we did some
> tests and packet recycling is not very valuable as far as SMP is
> concerned (given that packets can be alloced on one CPU and freed on
> another). There a clear win on single CPU machines.
Well for my app, I am just monitoring, so I use
IRQ and process affinity. You could split the
skb heads across CPUs also I guess.
>>>>Small packet performance is dependent on low latency. Higher bus speed
>>>>gives shorter latency but also on higher speed buses there use to be
>>>>bridges that adds latency.
>>>
>>>That's true. We suspect that the limit is due to bus latency. But still,
>>>we are surprised, since the bus allows to receive 100%, but to transmit
>>>up to ~50%. Moreover the raw aggerate bandwidth of the buffer is _far_
>>>larger (133MHz*64bit ~ 8gbit/s
>>
>>Well there definitely could be an asymmetry wrt bus latency.
>>Saying that though, in my tests with much the same hardware
>>as you, I could only get 800Kpps into the driver.
>
>
> Yep, thats about the number i was seeing as well in both pieces of
> hardware i used in the tests in my SUCON presentation.
>
>
>> I'll
>>check this again when I have time. Note also that as I understand
>>it the PCI control bus is running at a much lower rate,
>>and that is used to arbitrate the bus for each packet.
>>I.E. the 8Gb/s number above is not the bottleneck.
>>
>>An lspci -vvv for your ethernet devices would be useful
>>Also to view the burst size: setpci -d 8086:1010 e6.b
>>(where 8086:1010 is the ethernet device PCI id).
>>
>
> Can you talk a little about this PCI control bus? I have heard you
> mention it before ... I am trying to visualize where it fits in PCI
> system.
Basically the bus is arbitrated per packet. See secion 3.5 in:
http://www.intel.com/design/network/applnots/ap453.pdf
This also has lots of nice PCI info:
http://www.hep.man.ac.uk/u/rich/PFLDnet2004/Rich_PFLDNet_10GE_v7.ppt
--
Pádraig Brady - http://www.pixelbeat.org
--
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Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <1101467291.24742.70.camel@mellia.lipar.polito.it>
2004-11-26 14:05 ` [E1000-devel] Transmission limit P
2004-11-26 15:31 ` Marco Mellia
2004-11-26 19:56 ` jamal
2004-11-29 14:21 ` Marco Mellia
2004-11-30 13:46 ` jamal
2004-12-02 17:24 ` Marco Mellia
2004-11-26 20:06 ` jamal
2004-11-26 20:56 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2004-11-26 21:02 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2004-11-27 9:25 ` Harald Welte
[not found] ` <20041127111101.GC23139@xi.wantstofly.org>
2004-11-27 11:31 ` Harald Welte
2004-11-27 20:12 ` Cesar Marcondes
2004-11-29 8:53 ` Marco Mellia
2004-11-29 14:50 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2004-11-30 8:42 ` Marco Mellia
2004-12-01 12:25 ` jamal
2004-12-02 13:39 ` Marco Mellia
2004-12-03 13:07 ` jamal
2004-11-26 15:40 ` Robert Olsson
2004-11-26 15:59 ` Marco Mellia
2004-11-26 16:57 ` P
2004-11-26 20:01 ` jamal
2004-11-29 10:19 ` P [this message]
2004-11-29 13:09 ` Robert Olsson
2004-11-29 20:16 ` David S. Miller
2004-12-01 16:47 ` Robert Olsson
2004-11-30 13:31 ` jamal
2004-11-30 13:46 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2004-11-30 14:25 ` jamal
2004-12-01 0:11 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2004-12-01 1:09 ` Scott Feldman
2004-12-01 15:34 ` Robert Olsson
2004-12-01 16:49 ` Scott Feldman
2004-12-01 17:37 ` Robert Olsson
2004-12-02 17:54 ` Robert Olsson
2004-12-02 18:23 ` Robert Olsson
2004-12-02 23:25 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2004-12-03 5:23 ` Scott Feldman
2004-12-10 16:24 ` Martin Josefsson
2004-12-01 18:29 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2004-12-01 21:35 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2004-12-02 6:13 ` Scott Feldman
2004-12-03 13:24 ` jamal
2004-12-05 14:50 ` 1.03Mpps on e1000 (was: Re: [E1000-devel] Transmission limit) Lennert Buytenhek
2004-12-05 15:03 ` Martin Josefsson
2004-12-05 15:15 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2004-12-05 15:19 ` Martin Josefsson
2004-12-05 15:30 ` Martin Josefsson
2004-12-05 17:00 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2004-12-05 17:11 ` Martin Josefsson
2004-12-05 17:38 ` Martin Josefsson
2004-12-05 18:14 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2004-12-05 15:42 ` Martin Josefsson
2004-12-05 16:48 ` Martin Josefsson
2004-12-05 17:01 ` Martin Josefsson
2004-12-05 17:58 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2004-12-05 17:44 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2004-12-05 17:51 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2004-12-05 17:54 ` Martin Josefsson
2004-12-06 11:32 ` 1.03Mpps on e1000 (was: " jamal
2004-12-06 12:11 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2004-12-06 12:20 ` jamal
2004-12-06 12:23 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2004-12-06 12:30 ` Martin Josefsson
2004-12-06 13:11 ` jamal
[not found] ` <20041206132907.GA13411@xi.wantstofly.org>
[not found] ` <16820.37049.396306.295878@robur.slu.se>
2004-12-06 17:32 ` 1.03Mpps on e1000 (was: Re: [E1000-devel] " P
2004-12-08 23:36 ` Ray Lehtiniemi
[not found] ` <41B825A5.2000009@draigBrady.com>
[not found] ` <20041209161825.GA32454@mail.com>
2004-12-09 17:12 ` 1.03Mpps on e1000 P
[not found] ` <20041209164820.GB32454@mail.com>
2004-12-09 17:19 ` P
2004-12-09 23:25 ` Ray Lehtiniemi
2004-12-05 21:12 ` 1.03Mpps on e1000 (was: Re: [E1000-devel] Transmission limit) Scott Feldman
2004-12-05 21:25 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2004-12-06 1:23 ` 1.03Mpps on e1000 (was: " Scott Feldman
2004-12-02 17:31 ` [E1000-devel] Transmission limit Marco Mellia
2004-12-03 20:57 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2004-12-04 10:36 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2004-12-01 12:08 ` jamal
2004-12-01 15:24 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2004-11-26 17:58 ` Robert Olsson
2004-11-27 20:00 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2004-11-29 12:44 ` Marco Mellia
2004-11-29 15:19 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2004-11-29 17:32 ` Marco Mellia
2004-11-29 19:08 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2004-11-29 19:09 ` Lennert Buytenhek
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