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From: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>
To: netdev@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Experimental Driver for Neterion/S2io 10GbE Adapters
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:29:58 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42363A96.2090601@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200503150108.j2F18FDD016965@guinness.s2io.com>

Alex Aizman wrote:
> Andi Kleen writes: 
> 
> 
>>I guess the main objection to the HAL comes not from 
>>performance issues 
> 
> 
> But the second or the third objection comes from there, I guess... As far as
> the data path, HAL as a "layer" completely disappears. There is just a few
> inline instructions that post descriptors and process completed descriptors.
> These same instructions are unavoidable; they'd be present HAL or no-HAL.
> There's no HAL locks on the data path (the locks are compiled out), no HAL
> (as a "layer") induced overhead. Note that the performance was one
> persistent "paranoia" from the very start of this project.
> 
> The numbers also tell the tale. We have 7.6Gbps jumbo throughput, the
> bottleneck is PCI, not the host.

That would seem to suggest then comparing (using netperf terminology) service 
demands between HAL and no HAL.  JumboFrame can compensate for a host of ills :) 
I really do _not_ mean to imply there are any ills for which compensation is 
required, just suggesting to get folks into the habit of including CPU 
utilization.  And since we cannot count on JumboFrame being there end-to-end, 
performance with 1500 byte frames, while perhaps a bit unpleasant, is still 
important.

> We have 13us 1byte netpipe latency. 

So 76,000 transactions per second on something like single-byte netperf 
TCP_RR?!? Or am I mis-interpreting the netpipe latency figure?

I am of course biased, but netperf (compiled with -DUSE_PROCSTAT under Linux, 
somethign else for other OSes - feel free to contact me about it) tests along 
the lines of:

netperf -c -C -t TCP_STREAM -H <remote> -l <length> -i 10,3 -- -s 256K -S 256K 
-m 32K

and

netperf -c -C -t TCP_RR -H <remote> -l <length> -i 10,3

are generally useful.  If you have the same system type at each end, the -C can 
be dropped from the TCP_RR test since it _should_ be symmetric.  If -C dumps 
core on the TCP_STREAM test, drop it and add a TCP_MAERTS test to get receive 
service demand.

rick jones

  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-15  1:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-19  3:44 Intel and TOE in the news Jeff Garzik
2005-02-19  4:10 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2005-02-19 19:46   ` David S. Miller
2005-02-19 20:27     ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-19 20:32       ` Lennert Buytenhek
2005-02-20 16:46       ` Eugene Surovegin
2005-02-21 14:01         ` jamal
2005-02-20 19:45       ` rick jones
2005-02-20 21:20         ` Michael Richardson
2005-02-20 21:29         ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-20 22:43           ` Leonid Grossman
2005-02-20 23:07             ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-21  1:57               ` Alex Aizman
2005-02-21  2:37                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-02-21 19:34                   ` Alex Aizman
2005-02-21 20:34                     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-02-22  0:50                       ` Alex Aizman
2005-02-21 11:37                 ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-21  3:31               ` Leonid Grossman
2005-02-21 11:50                 ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-21 13:28                   ` Thomas Graf
2005-02-21 14:03                     ` jamal
2005-02-21 14:17                       ` Thomas Graf
2005-02-21 14:31                         ` jamal
2005-02-21 15:34                           ` Thomas Graf
2005-02-21 15:48                             ` jamal
2005-02-21 16:40                               ` Thomas Graf
2005-02-21 17:03                                 ` jamal
2005-02-21 20:12                                   ` patrick mcmanus
2005-02-21 21:12                                     ` jamal
2005-03-06 11:21                                       ` Harald Welte
2005-02-21 21:41                                   ` Thomas Graf
2005-02-21 15:38                           ` Robert Olsson
2005-02-21 15:50                             ` jamal
2005-02-21 13:44             ` jamal
2005-02-21 16:52               ` Leonid Grossman
2005-02-21 17:11                 ` jamal
2005-02-21 18:02                   ` Leonid Grossman
2005-02-22 18:02                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-02-22 18:07                       ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-22 20:51                         ` Leonid Grossman
2005-02-22 21:20                           ` Rick Jones
2005-02-22 21:30                             ` Leonid Grossman
2005-02-22 21:42                               ` Rick Jones
2005-02-22 22:10                                 ` Leonid Grossman
2005-02-22 21:43                           ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-22 22:17                             ` Leonid Grossman
2005-02-22 22:42                               ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-22 22:51                                 ` Leonid Grossman
2005-03-14 20:22                   ` [ANNOUNCE] Experimental Driver for Neterion/S2io 10GbE Adapters Alex Aizman
2005-03-14 20:38                     ` David S. Miller
2005-03-14 20:53                       ` Leonid Grossman
2005-03-14 23:27                         ` Andi Kleen
2005-03-14 23:45                           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-15  0:32                             ` Leonid Grossman
2005-03-15  1:07                           ` Alex Aizman
2005-03-15  1:29                             ` Rick Jones [this message]
2005-03-15  2:28                               ` Leonid Grossman
2005-03-15 15:07                             ` Leonid Grossman
2005-03-15 15:55                               ` Leonid Grossman
2005-03-19 20:15                                 ` Andi Kleen
2005-03-19 22:19                                   ` Leonid Grossman
2005-03-20 13:40                                     ` jamal
2005-03-20 20:13                                       ` Leonid Grossman
2005-03-15  5:14                     ` Scott Feldman
2005-03-15  5:59                       ` Matt Mackall
2005-03-15  6:02                       ` Leonid Grossman
2005-02-22 17:27                 ` Intel and TOE in the news Andi Kleen
2005-02-19 20:29     ` Lennert Buytenhek
2005-03-02 13:48   ` Lennert Buytenhek
2005-03-02 17:34     ` Leonid Grossman
2005-02-21 13:59 ` P
2005-02-21 14:10   ` jamal
2005-02-21 22:44 ` Stephen Hemminger
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-03-22 23:29 [ANNOUNCE] Experimental Driver for Neterion/S2io 10GbE Adapters Alex Aizman
2005-08-11 17:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-11 19:40 Leonid Grossman

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