From: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>
To: netdev@oss.sgi.com
Cc: m.iatrou@freemail.gr
Subject: Re: e1000 (?) jumbo frames performance issue
Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:54:43 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <427A9623.5060402@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050505143318.004566a9.davem@davemloft.net>
David S. Miller wrote:
> On Thu, 05 May 2005 13:17:31 -0700
> Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I seem to recall that some of the stack defaults for SO_SNDBUF (IIRC) would
>>result in netperf sending 16KB at a time into the connection - once you sent the
>>MTU above 16K you may have started running into issues with Nagle and delayed
>>ACK? You could try some tests adding a test-specific -D to disable Nagle, or -C
>>to set TCP_CORK, or use -m to set the send size to say, 32KB.
>
>
> Yes, for one don't expect reasonable behavior if the MTU is near to or less
> than the send buffer size in use.
>
> Also, many of Nagle's notions start to fall apart at such high MTU settings.
> For example, all of Nagle (even with Minshall's modifications) basically define
> "small packet" as anything smaller than 1 MSS.
>
> So something to look into (besides increasing your send buffer size with jacking
> up the MTU so large) is changing Nagle to use some constant. Perhaps something like
> 512 bytes or smaller, or even 128 bytes or smaller.
IMO 128 is too small - 54 bytes of header to only 128 bytes of data seems
"worthy" of encountering Nagle by default. If not 1460, then 536 feels nice - I
would guess it likely was a common MSS "back in the day" when Nagle first
proposed the algorithm/heuristic - assuming of course that the intent of the
algorithm was to try to get the average header/header+data ratio to something
around 0.9 (although IIRC, none of a 537 byte send would be delayed by Nagle
since it was the size of the user's send being >= the MSS, so make that ~0.45 ?)
rick jones
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-05-05 21:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-05-05 16:28 e1000 (?) jumbo frames performance issue Michael Iatrou
2005-05-05 20:17 ` Rick Jones
2005-05-05 21:33 ` David S. Miller
2005-05-05 21:54 ` Rick Jones [this message]
2005-05-05 22:17 ` David S. Miller
2005-05-05 23:24 ` Rick Jones
2005-05-05 21:55 ` Michael Iatrou
2005-05-05 22:26 ` Michael Iatrou
2005-05-06 16:18 ` Rick Jones
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