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From: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>
To: netdev@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH] "strict" ipv4 reassembly
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 16:53:39 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <428A8403.7000901@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OF16EC9302.031C4230-ON88257004.007BA491-88257004.007C8D46@us.ibm.com>

David Stevens wrote:

> 
> This assumes that you have a per-destination IP ID. If it's per-route, you
> can send 1 packet to host A, 65534 to host B through the same route, and 1 to
> host A-- wrap on the next received packet, as far as host A is concerned. 
> (even sooner, if it's using randomized ID's or a bigger-than-1 increment).

If we were actually looking at the ID's themselves, rather than the count of
datagrams received that would be correct, but someone already pointed-out that
ass-u-me-ing monotonic increasing was not a good thing, so simply count
datagrams completed/recevied on that source/dest pair instead.  Then we don't
really care about the sender's IP ID assignment policy.

If someone wants to hit that with a DoS attack, I'm still wondering if that is a
large DoS hole, (larger than existing ones with spoofing fragments) and the
extent to which it depends on whether the attacker is closer to me than the
sender or "on the other side" of the sender from me.

rick jones

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-05-17 23:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-17 16:18 [RFC/PATCH] "strict" ipv4 reassembly Arthur Kepner
2005-05-17 17:49 ` David S. Miller
2005-05-17 18:28   ` Arthur Kepner
2005-05-17 18:48     ` David S. Miller
2005-05-17 20:21       ` Arthur Kepner
2005-05-17 18:38   ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-17 18:45     ` Pekka Savola
2005-05-17 18:50     ` David S. Miller
2005-05-17 18:56       ` Rick Jones
2005-05-17 18:57     ` John Heffner
2005-05-17 19:09       ` David S. Miller
2005-05-17 19:21         ` Rick Jones
2005-05-17 19:26         ` Ben Greear
2005-05-17 20:48         ` Thomas Graf
2005-05-17 19:17       ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-17 19:56         ` David Stevens
2005-05-17 20:17           ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-17 20:22             ` David S. Miller
2005-05-17 20:27               ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-17 21:02                 ` David S. Miller
2005-05-17 21:13                   ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-17 21:24                     ` David S. Miller
2005-05-17 21:25                   ` Rick Jones
2005-05-17 22:06                     ` Arthur Kepner
2005-05-17 22:18                       ` Rick Jones
2005-05-17 22:40                         ` David Stevens
2005-05-17 23:11                           ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-17 23:20                             ` Arthur Kepner
2005-05-17 23:25                               ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-17 23:55                                 ` David Stevens
2005-05-18  0:00                                   ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-18  0:04                                 ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-18  0:09                                   ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-18  0:52                                     ` David S. Miller
2005-05-18  0:06                                 ` Nivedita Singhvi
2005-05-18  0:10                                   ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-18  0:51                                     ` David S. Miller
2005-05-18  1:05                                       ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-18  1:13                                       ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-18  1:09                                 ` John Heffner
2005-05-17 23:53                           ` Rick Jones [this message]
2005-05-17 22:12                     ` David S. Miller
2005-05-17 22:23                       ` Rick Jones
2005-05-17 20:29           ` John Heffner
2005-05-17 19:01     ` Nivedita Singhvi
2005-05-17 19:13       ` Rick Jones
2005-05-17 19:25         ` Nivedita Singhvi
2005-05-17 19:31           ` John Heffner
2005-05-17 19:52             ` Nivedita Singhvi
2005-05-17 20:05               ` John Heffner
2005-05-17 20:12                 ` Rick Jones
2005-05-17 19:33           ` Rick Jones
2005-05-17 19:53             ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-17 22:11   ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-17 22:13     ` David S. Miller
2005-05-17 23:08       ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-17 23:16         ` David S. Miller
2005-05-17 23:28           ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-17 23:36             ` Patrick McHardy
2005-05-17 23:41               ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-18  0:47     ` Thomas Graf
2005-05-18  1:06       ` Arthur Kepner
2005-05-18  1:16       ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-18  1:37         ` Thomas Graf
2005-05-18  1:52           ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-18 11:30             ` Thomas Graf
2005-05-18 11:40               ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-18 12:24                 ` Thomas Graf
2005-05-18 16:21           ` Rick Jones
2005-05-18 17:40             ` Thomas Graf
2005-05-18 17:44               ` Thomas Graf
2005-05-18 21:46                 ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-18 22:24                   ` David Stevens
2005-05-18 22:39                     ` Nivedita Singhvi
2005-05-18 23:31                     ` Thomas Graf
2005-05-18 21:45             ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-19 12:23               ` Thomas Graf
2005-05-19 12:48                 ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-19 15:19                   ` Thomas Graf
2005-05-19 17:02                 ` Rick Jones

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