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From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>
To: Andy Fleming <afleming@freescale.com>
Cc: Netdev <netdev@oss.sgi.com>,
	Embedded PPC Linux list <linuxppc-embedded@ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: PHY Abstraction Layer II
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 14:19:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <429E2653.6010101@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <92F1428A-0B26-428B-8C06-35C7E5B9EEE3@freescale.com>

Andy Fleming wrote:

>
> On May 31, 2005, at 12:59, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
>
>> Here are some patches:
>>     * allow phy's to be modules
>>     * use driver owner for ref count
>>     * make local functions static where ever possible
>
>
> I agree with all these.
>
>>     * get rid of bus read may sleep implication in comment.
>>       since you are holding phy spin lock it better not!!
>
>
> But not this one.  The phy_read and phy_write functions are reading  
> from and writing to a bus.  It is a reasonable implementation to have  
> the operation block in the bus driver, and be awoken when an  
> interrupt signals the operation is done.  All of the phydev spinlocks  
> have been arranged so as to prevent the lock being taken during  
> interrupt time.
>
> Unless I've misunderstood spinlocks (it wouldn't be the first time),  
> as long as the lock is never taken in interrupt time, it should be ok  
> to hold the lock, and wait for an interrupt before clearing the lock.


The problem is that sleeping is defined in the linux kernel as meaning 
waiting on a mutual exclusion
primitive (like semaphore) that puts the current thread to sleep. It is 
not legal to sleep with a spinlock held.
In the phy_read code you do:
   
   spin_lock_bh(&bus->mdio_lock);
    retval = bus->read(bus, phydev->addr, regnum);
    spin_unlock_bh(&bus->mdio_lock);

If the bus->read function were to do something like start a request and 
wait on a semaphore, then
you would be sleeping with a spin lock held.  So bus->read can not 
sleep! (as sleep is defined in the
linux kernel).

  reply	other threads:[~2005-06-01 21:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-09  1:47 RFC: PHY Abstraction Layer II Andy Fleming
2005-03-09  2:14 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-09  3:42   ` David S. Miller
2005-03-09  3:50     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-09 17:24       ` Andy Fleming
2005-03-10 23:01         ` James Chapman
2005-03-10 23:06           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-10 23:27             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-10 23:27               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-15  0:41           ` Andy Fleming
2005-03-15 19:18             ` James Chapman
2005-03-18 23:14               ` Andy Fleming
2005-03-24 21:48               ` Andy Fleming
2005-03-25 22:56                 ` Andy Fleming
2005-03-28 23:45                   ` Kumar Gala
2005-04-17 13:00                 ` James Chapman
2005-05-10 17:04                   ` Andy Fleming
2005-05-12  6:08                     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2005-05-25 23:00                     ` Kumar Gala
2005-03-09 17:17   ` Andy Fleming
2005-05-26 18:32 ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-05-26 18:45   ` Andy Fleming
2005-05-31 17:59 ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-06-01 20:45   ` Andy Fleming
2005-06-01 21:19     ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2005-06-01 22:42       ` Andy Fleming
2005-06-01 21:41     ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-06-01 22:36       ` Andy Fleming
2005-06-05 20:29         ` Glen Turner
2005-06-09 21:32           ` Andy Fleming
2005-06-28  6:38             ` Glen Turner

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