From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>
To: Andy Fleming <afleming@freescale.com>
Cc: Netdev <netdev@oss.sgi.com>,
Embedded PPC Linux list <linuxppc-embedded@ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: PHY Abstraction Layer II
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 14:19:15 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <429E2653.6010101@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <92F1428A-0B26-428B-8C06-35C7E5B9EEE3@freescale.com>
Andy Fleming wrote:
>
> On May 31, 2005, at 12:59, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
>
>> Here are some patches:
>> * allow phy's to be modules
>> * use driver owner for ref count
>> * make local functions static where ever possible
>
>
> I agree with all these.
>
>> * get rid of bus read may sleep implication in comment.
>> since you are holding phy spin lock it better not!!
>
>
> But not this one. The phy_read and phy_write functions are reading
> from and writing to a bus. It is a reasonable implementation to have
> the operation block in the bus driver, and be awoken when an
> interrupt signals the operation is done. All of the phydev spinlocks
> have been arranged so as to prevent the lock being taken during
> interrupt time.
>
> Unless I've misunderstood spinlocks (it wouldn't be the first time),
> as long as the lock is never taken in interrupt time, it should be ok
> to hold the lock, and wait for an interrupt before clearing the lock.
The problem is that sleeping is defined in the linux kernel as meaning
waiting on a mutual exclusion
primitive (like semaphore) that puts the current thread to sleep. It is
not legal to sleep with a spinlock held.
In the phy_read code you do:
spin_lock_bh(&bus->mdio_lock);
retval = bus->read(bus, phydev->addr, regnum);
spin_unlock_bh(&bus->mdio_lock);
If the bus->read function were to do something like start a request and
wait on a semaphore, then
you would be sleeping with a spin lock held. So bus->read can not
sleep! (as sleep is defined in the
linux kernel).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-06-01 21:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-03-09 1:47 RFC: PHY Abstraction Layer II Andy Fleming
2005-03-09 2:14 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-09 3:42 ` David S. Miller
2005-03-09 3:50 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-09 17:24 ` Andy Fleming
2005-03-10 23:01 ` James Chapman
2005-03-10 23:06 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-10 23:27 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-10 23:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-15 0:41 ` Andy Fleming
2005-03-15 19:18 ` James Chapman
2005-03-18 23:14 ` Andy Fleming
2005-03-24 21:48 ` Andy Fleming
2005-03-25 22:56 ` Andy Fleming
2005-03-28 23:45 ` Kumar Gala
2005-04-17 13:00 ` James Chapman
2005-05-10 17:04 ` Andy Fleming
2005-05-12 6:08 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2005-05-25 23:00 ` Kumar Gala
2005-03-09 17:17 ` Andy Fleming
2005-05-26 18:32 ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-05-26 18:45 ` Andy Fleming
2005-05-31 17:59 ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-06-01 20:45 ` Andy Fleming
2005-06-01 21:19 ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2005-06-01 22:42 ` Andy Fleming
2005-06-01 21:41 ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-06-01 22:36 ` Andy Fleming
2005-06-05 20:29 ` Glen Turner
2005-06-09 21:32 ` Andy Fleming
2005-06-28 6:38 ` Glen Turner
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