From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: ipw2100: firmware problem
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 22:13:44 -0400
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Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>, pavel@ucw.cz,
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James Ketrenos wrote:
> I don't know if all the distributions have moved away from this model. 
> If they have and the devices are brought up regardless of link, then
> going back to delaying radio initialization until the open() is called
> is workable. 


When the interface is not up, we ideally want the device to be as 
passive as possible.

Most net drivers shut down as much as possible at dev->close() time, and 
it would really be good if wireless drivers followed suit.

	Jeff