From: Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>, Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
Cc: "Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
"Björn Töpel" <bjorn@kernel.org>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"Andrew Lunn" <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
"Donald Hunter" <donald.hunter@gmail.com>,
"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
"Naveen Mamindlapalli" <naveenm@marvell.com>,
"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
"Simon Horman" <horms@kernel.org>,
"Danielle Ratson" <danieller@nvidia.com>,
"Hariprasad Kelam" <hkelam@marvell.com>,
"Ido Schimmel" <idosch@nvidia.com>,
"Kory Maincent" <kory.maincent@bootlin.com>,
"Leon Romanovsky" <leon@kernel.org>,
"Michael Chan" <michael.chan@broadcom.com>,
"Pavan Chebbi" <pavan.chebbi@broadcom.com>,
"Piergiorgio Beruto" <piergiorgio.beruto@gmail.com>,
"Russell King" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
"Saeed Mahameed" <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
"Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>,
"Tariq Toukan" <tariqt@nvidia.com>,
"Willem de Bruijn" <willemb@google.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 02/11] ethtool: Add loopback netlink UAPI definitions
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2026 17:39:59 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <42abf88e-4fbf-4966-9490-8315f118ddea@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7c45ebf6-0cb2-4a4c-ac12-f4f9bb59c908@lunn.ch>
Hi Andrew,
>> One more issue is the test data generator location. The data generator
>> is not always the CPU. We have HW generators located in components like
>> PHYs or we may use external source (remote loopback).
>
> At the moment, we don't have a Linux model for such generators. There
> is interest in them, but nobody has actually stepped up and proposed
> anything. I do see there is an intersect, we need to be able to
> represent them in the topology, and know which way they are pointing,
> but i don't think they have a direct influence on loopback.
If I'm following Oleksij, the idea would be to have on one side the
ability to "dump" the link topology with a finer granularity so that we
can see all the different blocks (pcs, pma, pmd, etc.), how they are
chained together and who's driving them (MAC, PHY (+ phy_index), module,
etc.), and on another side commands to configure loopback on them, with
the ability to also configure traffic generators in the future, gather
stats, etc.
Another can of worms for sure, and probably too much for what Björn is
trying to achieve. It's hard to say if this is overkill or not, there's
interest in that for sure, but also quite a lot of work to do...
Maxime
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-12 16:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-10 10:47 [PATCH net-next 00/11] ethtool: Generic loopback support Björn Töpel
2026-03-10 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next 01/11] ethtool: Add dump_one_dev callback for per-device sub-iteration Björn Töpel
2026-03-12 2:32 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-13 16:36 ` Björn Töpel
2026-03-10 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next 02/11] ethtool: Add loopback netlink UAPI definitions Björn Töpel
2026-03-11 7:33 ` Maxime Chevallier
2026-03-11 10:39 ` Björn Töpel
2026-03-11 15:30 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-11 15:42 ` Maxime Chevallier
2026-03-11 19:37 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-12 2:47 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-12 13:46 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-13 0:21 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-11 10:50 ` Oleksij Rempel
2026-03-12 2:49 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-11 15:22 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-11 15:35 ` Maxime Chevallier
2026-03-11 19:26 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-12 2:50 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-12 5:04 ` Oleksij Rempel
2026-03-12 7:49 ` Maxime Chevallier
2026-03-12 8:46 ` Oleksij Rempel
2026-03-12 13:34 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-12 13:51 ` Oleksij Rempel
2026-03-12 16:39 ` Maxime Chevallier [this message]
2026-03-13 19:11 ` Björn Töpel
2026-03-15 15:09 ` Oleksij Rempel
2026-03-15 16:20 ` Björn Töpel
2026-03-18 15:59 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-10 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next 03/11] ethtool: Add loopback GET/SET netlink implementation Björn Töpel
2026-03-12 2:51 ` [net-next,03/11] " Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-10 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next 04/11] ethtool: Add CMIS loopback helpers for module loopback control Björn Töpel
2026-03-10 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next 05/11] selftests: drv-net: Add loopback driver test Björn Töpel
2026-03-10 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next 06/11] ethtool: Add MAC loopback support via ethtool_ops Björn Töpel
2026-03-11 6:04 ` [PATCH 6/11] " Naveen Mamindlapalli
2026-03-10 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next 07/11] netdevsim: Add MAC loopback simulation Björn Töpel
2026-03-10 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next 08/11] selftests: drv-net: Add MAC loopback netdevsim test Björn Töpel
2026-03-10 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next 09/11] MAINTAINERS: Add entry for ethtool loopback Björn Töpel
2026-03-10 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next 10/11] netdevsim: Add module EEPROM simulation via debugfs Björn Töpel
2026-03-12 2:52 ` [net-next,10/11] " Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-10 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next 11/11] selftests: drv-net: Add CMIS loopback netdevsim test Björn Töpel
2026-03-11 6:18 ` [PATCH net-next 00/11] ethtool: Generic loopback support Naveen Mamindlapalli
2026-03-11 10:24 ` Björn Töpel
2026-03-12 2:53 ` Jakub Kicinski
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