From: James Courtier-Dutton <James@superbug.co.uk>
To: Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>
Cc: Sridhar Samudrala <sri@us.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/3] TCP/IP Critical socket communication mechanism
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:49:10 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43A08546.8040708@superbug.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9a8748490512141216x7e25ca2cucb675f11f0c9d913@mail.gmail.com>
Jesper Juhl wrote:
> On 12/14/05, Sridhar Samudrala <sri@us.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>>These set of patches provide a TCP/IP emergency communication mechanism that
>>could be used to guarantee high priority communications over a critical socket
>>to succeed even under very low memory conditions that last for a couple of
>>minutes. It uses the critical page pool facility provided by Matt's patches
>>that he posted recently on lkml.
>> http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/12/14/34/index.html
>>
>>This mechanism provides a new socket option SO_CRITICAL that can be used to
>>mark a socket as critical. A critical connection used for emergency
>
>
> So now everyone writing commercial apps for Linux are going to set
> SO_CRITICAL on sockets in their apps so their apps can "survive better
> under pressure than the competitors aps" and clueless programmers all
> over are going to think "cool, with this I can make my app more
> important than everyone elses, I'm going to use this". When everyone
> and his dog starts to set this, what's the point?
>
>
I don't think the initial patches that Matt did were intended for what
you are describing.
When I had the conversation with Matt at KS, the problem we were trying
to solve was "Memory pressure with network attached swap space".
I came up with the idea that I think Matt has implemented.
Letting the OS choose which are "critical" TCP/IP sessions is fine. But
letting an application choose is a recipe for disaster.
James
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-12-14 20:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-12-14 9:12 [RFC][PATCH 0/3] TCP/IP Critical socket communication mechanism Sridhar Samudrala
2005-12-14 9:22 ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-14 17:55 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2005-12-14 18:41 ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-14 19:20 ` David Stevens
2005-12-15 3:39 ` Matt Mackall
2005-12-15 4:30 ` David S. Miller
2005-12-15 5:02 ` Matt Mackall
2005-12-15 5:23 ` David S. Miller
2005-12-15 5:48 ` Matt Mackall
2005-12-15 5:53 ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-15 5:56 ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-12-15 8:44 ` David Stevens
2005-12-15 8:58 ` David S. Miller
2005-12-15 9:27 ` David Stevens
2005-12-15 5:42 ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-15 6:06 ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-12-15 7:37 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2005-12-15 8:21 ` David S. Miller
2005-12-15 8:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-15 8:55 ` [RFC] Fine-grained memory priorities and PI Kyle Moffett
2005-12-15 9:04 ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-15 12:51 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-15 13:31 ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-15 12:45 ` Con Kolivas
2005-12-15 12:58 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-15 13:02 ` Con Kolivas
2005-12-16 2:09 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] TCP/IP Critical socket communication mechanism Sridhar Samudrala
2005-12-16 17:48 ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-12-16 18:38 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2005-12-21 9:11 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-21 9:39 ` David Stevens
2005-12-14 20:16 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-12-14 20:25 ` Ben Greear
2005-12-14 20:49 ` James Courtier-Dutton [this message]
2005-12-14 21:55 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2005-12-14 22:09 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2005-12-14 22:39 ` Ben Greear
2005-12-14 23:42 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2005-12-15 1:54 ` Mitchell Blank Jr
2005-12-15 11:38 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2005-12-15 11:47 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-15 13:00 ` jamal
2005-12-15 13:07 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-15 13:32 ` jamal
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[not found] ` <5jXhZ-4kj-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-12-16 8:35 ` Bodo Eggert
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