From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Pavel Roskin <proski-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Francois Romieu <romieu-W8zweXLXuWQS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>,
netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
orinoco-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 17/21] orinoco_pci: use pci_iomap() for resources
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 11:00:14 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4437CFFE.5000108@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060407200731.mqskowo8808gccs8-2RFepEojUI3Rd1RZctBqVdHuzzzSOjJt@public.gmane.org>
Pavel Roskin wrote:
> Quoting Francois Romieu <romieu-W8zweXLXuWQS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>:
>>>> Is there a reason why dev->mem_{start/end} should not be removed ?
>>> Is there a reason why it should? Is it going to be obsolete?
>> It is slowly obsoleting for a few years (don't laugh...). It is preferred
>> to store the relevant address in the private part of the (pci) device.
>>
>> Moderately recent drivers do not use it at all. However it's fairly common
>> in the setup code of the (legacy) isa devices.
>
> I agree that many drivers don't use it. But it would be nice to have a document
> describing what is going on. On one hand we are adding new information elements
> (such as the bus in "ethtool -i"), on the other hand we are removing addresses
> from the ifconfig output. Who is deciding which information is useful and
> which is not?
Most of the ifconfig-exported stuff is obsolete, simply because most of
it is quite inappropriate for hardware more modern than ISA.
dev->mem_start has been a hacky way to pass options for over 10 years
now, since only few, rare drivers use it to specify the ISA memory
region for probing.
> How about netdev->irq? Is it going to be obsolete too? Then I can easily
> remove orinoco_pci_setup_netdev() with very minimal adjustments.
netdev->irq is obsolete as well. Some newer drivers don't even bother
to set it. With PCI, it became write-only, because modern drivers
autoprobe their irq, ignoring whatever the user requests. With PCI
MSI[-X] and even more modern hardware, dev->irq is just a cookie, not
something to program PCI_INTERRUPT_LINE with. So setting netdev->irq is
even less useful.
Programs which need to discover hardware information when given a
network interface name should do ETHTOOL_GDRVINFO, get the bus info, and
then obtain the information needed in a bus-specific way.
Jeff
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-04-08 15:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-04-07 8:10 [PATCH 01/21] orinoco: Remove useless CIS validation Pavel Roskin
[not found] ` <20060407081019.16107.67672.stgit-fdEtzkpK75rby3iVrkZq2A@public.gmane.org>
2006-04-07 8:10 ` [PATCH 02/21] orinoco: remove PCMCIA audio support, it's useless for wireless cards Pavel Roskin
2006-04-07 8:10 ` [PATCH 03/21] orinoco: remove underscores from little-endian field names Pavel Roskin
2006-04-07 8:10 ` [PATCH 04/21] orinoco: fix truncating commsquality RID with the latest Symbol firmware Pavel Roskin
2006-04-07 8:10 ` [PATCH 05/21] orinoco: remove tracing code, it's unused Pavel Roskin
2006-04-07 8:10 ` [PATCH 06/21] orinoco: remove debug buffer code and userspace include support Pavel Roskin
2006-04-07 8:10 ` [PATCH 07/21] orinoco: Symbol card supported by spectrum_cs is LA4137, not LA4100 Pavel Roskin
2006-04-07 8:10 ` [PATCH 08/21] orinoco: optimize Tx exception handling in orinoco Pavel Roskin
2006-04-07 8:10 ` [PATCH 09/21] orinoco: orinoco_xmit() should only return valid symbolic constants Pavel Roskin
2006-04-07 8:10 ` [PATCH 10/21] orinoco replace hermes_write_words() with hermes_write_bytes() Pavel Roskin
2006-04-07 8:10 ` [PATCH 11/21] orinoco: don't use any padding for Tx frames Pavel Roskin
2006-04-07 8:10 ` [PATCH 12/21] orinoco: refactor and clean up Tx error handling Pavel Roskin
2006-04-07 8:10 ` [PATCH 13/21] orinoco: simplify 802.3 encapsulation code Pavel Roskin
2006-04-07 8:10 ` [PATCH 14/21] orinoco: fix BAP0 offset error after several days of operation Pavel Roskin
2006-04-07 8:10 ` [PATCH 15/21] orinoco: delay FID allocation after firmware initialization Pavel Roskin
2006-04-07 8:10 ` [PATCH 16/21] orinoco_pci: disable device and free IRQ when suspending Pavel Roskin
[not found] ` <20060407081051.16107.87289.stgit-fdEtzkpK75rby3iVrkZq2A@public.gmane.org>
2006-04-07 21:24 ` Francois Romieu
[not found] ` <20060407212429.GA15720-lmTtMILVy1jWQcoT9B9Ug5SCg42XY1Uw0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2006-04-07 22:12 ` Pavel Roskin
2006-04-07 23:08 ` Francois Romieu
2006-04-07 8:10 ` [PATCH 17/21] orinoco_pci: use pci_iomap() for resources Pavel Roskin
[not found] ` <20060407081053.16107.19347.stgit-fdEtzkpK75rby3iVrkZq2A@public.gmane.org>
2006-04-07 21:36 ` Francois Romieu
[not found] ` <20060407213619.GB15720-lmTtMILVy1jWQcoT9B9Ug5SCg42XY1Uw0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2006-04-07 22:21 ` Pavel Roskin
2006-04-07 23:38 ` Francois Romieu
[not found] ` <20060407233819.GB15667-lmTtMILVy1jWQcoT9B9Ug5SCg42XY1Uw0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2006-04-08 0:07 ` Pavel Roskin
[not found] ` <20060407200731.mqskowo8808gccs8-2RFepEojUI3Rd1RZctBqVdHuzzzSOjJt@public.gmane.org>
2006-04-08 15:00 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2006-04-07 8:10 ` [PATCH 18/21] orinoco: support PCI suspend/resume for Nortel, PLX and TMD adaptors Pavel Roskin
2006-04-07 8:10 ` [PATCH 19/21] orinoco: reduce differences between PCI drivers, create orinoco_pci.h Pavel Roskin
[not found] ` <20060407081057.16107.82106.stgit-fdEtzkpK75rby3iVrkZq2A@public.gmane.org>
2006-04-07 22:10 ` Francois Romieu
[not found] ` <20060407221041.GC15720-lmTtMILVy1jWQcoT9B9Ug5SCg42XY1Uw0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2006-04-07 22:43 ` Pavel Roskin
2006-04-07 8:11 ` [PATCH 20/21] orinoco: further comment cleanup in the PCI drivers Pavel Roskin
2006-04-07 8:11 ` [PATCH 21/21] orinoco: bump version to 0.15 Pavel Roskin
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