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From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Caitlin Bestler <caitlinb@broadcom.com>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	kelly@au1.ibm.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, rusty@rustcorp.com.au
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] Rough VJ Channel Implementation - vj_core.patch
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:46:58 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <444FCE32.2010207@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54AD0F12E08D1541B826BE97C98F99F143AE6C@NT-SJCA-0751.brcm.ad.broadcom.com>

Caitlin Bestler wrote:
> David S. Miller wrote:
> 
>> I personally think allowing sockets to trump firewall rules
>> is an acceptable relaxation of the rules in order to simplify
>> the implementation.
> 
> I agree.  I have never seen a set of netfilter rules that
> would block arbitrary packets *within* an established connection.
> 
> Technically you can create such rules, but every single set
> of rules actually deployed that I have ever seen started with
> a rule to pass all packets for established connections, and
> then proceeded to control which connections could be initiated
> or accepted.

Oh, there are plenty of examples of filtering within an established 
connection:  input rules.  I've seen "drop all packets from <these> IPs"
type rules frequently.  Victims of DoS use those kinds of rules to stop 
packets as early as possible.

	Jeff



  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-26 19:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-26 19:30 [PATCH 1/3] Rough VJ Channel Implementation - vj_core.patch Caitlin Bestler
2006-04-26 19:46 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2006-04-26 22:40   ` David S. Miller
2006-04-27  3:40 ` Rusty Russell
2006-04-27  4:58   ` James Morris
2006-04-27  6:16     ` David S. Miller
2006-04-27  6:17   ` David S. Miller
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-04-28 23:45 Caitlin Bestler
2006-04-28 17:55 Caitlin Bestler
2006-04-28 22:17 ` Rusty Russell
2006-04-28 22:40   ` David S. Miller
2006-04-29  0:22     ` Rusty Russell
2006-04-29  6:46       ` David S. Miller
2006-04-28 17:02 Caitlin Bestler
2006-04-28 17:18 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-04-28 17:29   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-04-28 17:41     ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-04-28 17:55       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-04-28 19:16         ` David S. Miller
2006-04-28 19:49           ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-04-28 19:59             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-04-28 22:00               ` David S. Miller
2006-04-29 13:54                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
     [not found]                 ` <20060429124451.GA19810@2ka.mipt.ru>
2006-05-01 21:32                   ` David S. Miller
2006-05-02  7:08                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-04-28 19:52           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-04-28 19:10   ` David S. Miller
2006-04-28 20:46     ` Brent Cook
2006-04-28 17:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-04-28 19:14   ` David S. Miller
2006-04-28 15:59 Caitlin Bestler
2006-04-28 16:12 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-04-28 19:09   ` David S. Miller
2006-04-27 21:12 Caitlin Bestler
2006-04-28  6:10 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-04-28  7:20   ` David S. Miller
2006-04-28  7:32     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-04-28 18:20       ` David S. Miller
2006-04-28  8:24 ` Rusty Russell
2006-04-28 19:21   ` David S. Miller
2006-04-28 22:04     ` Rusty Russell
2006-04-28 22:38       ` David S. Miller
2006-04-29  0:10         ` Rusty Russell
2006-04-27  1:02 Caitlin Bestler
2006-04-27  6:08 ` David S. Miller
2006-04-27  6:17   ` Andi Kleen
2006-04-27  6:27     ` David S. Miller
2006-04-27  6:41       ` Andi Kleen
2006-04-27  7:52         ` David S. Miller
2006-04-26 22:53 Caitlin Bestler
2006-04-26 22:59 ` David S. Miller
2006-04-26 20:20 Caitlin Bestler
2006-04-26 22:35 ` David S. Miller
2006-04-26 16:57 Caitlin Bestler
2006-04-26 19:23 ` David S. Miller
2006-04-26 11:47 Kelly Daly
2006-04-26  7:33 ` David S. Miller
2006-04-27  3:31   ` Kelly Daly
2006-04-27  6:25     ` David S. Miller
2006-04-27 11:51       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-04-27 20:09         ` David S. Miller
2006-04-28  6:05           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-05-04  2:59       ` Kelly Daly
2006-05-04 23:22         ` David S. Miller
2006-05-05  1:31           ` Rusty Russell
2006-04-26  7:59 ` David S. Miller
2006-05-04  7:28   ` Kelly Daly
2006-05-04 23:11     ` David S. Miller
2006-05-05  2:48       ` Kelly Daly
2006-05-16  1:02         ` Kelly Daly
2006-05-16  1:05           ` David S. Miller
2006-05-16  1:15             ` Kelly Daly
2006-05-16  5:16           ` David S. Miller
2006-06-22  2:05             ` Kelly Daly
2006-06-22  3:58               ` James Morris
2006-06-22  4:31                 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2006-06-22  4:36                 ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2006-07-08  0:05               ` David Miller

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