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From: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>
To: mark1smi@us.ibm.com
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: send(), sendmsg(), sendto() not thread-safe
Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 16:17:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44690C1C.8030101@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060515.154939.28171388.davem@davemloft.net>

David S. Miller wrote:
> From: Mark A Smith <mark1smi@us.ibm.com>
> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 14:39:06 -0700
> 
> 
>>I discovered that in some cases, send(), sendmsg(), and sendto() are not
>>thread-safe. Although the man page for these functions does not specify
>>whether these functions are supposed to be thread-safe, my reading of the
>>POSIX/SUSv3 specification tells me that they should be. I traced the
>>problem to tcp_sendmsg(). I was very curious about this issue, so I wrote
>>up a small page to describe in more detail my findings. You can find it at:
>>http://www.almaden.ibm.com/cs/people/marksmith/sendmsg.html .


# ./sendmsgclient localhost
ERROR! We should have all 0! We don't!
buff[16384]=1
buff[16385]=1
buff[16386]=1
buff[16387]=1
buff[16388]=1
buff[16389]=1
buff[16390]=1
buff[16391]=1
buff[16392]=1
buff[16393]=1
That's 10/32768 bad bytes
# uname -a
HP-UX tarry B.11.23 U ia64 2397028692 unlimited-user license

Given that the URL above asserts that HP-UX claims atomicity, either 
there is a bug in the UX stack, or perhaps the test?  I took a quick 
look at the HP-UX 11iv2 (aka 11.23) manpage for sendmsg and didn't see 
anything about atomicity there - on which manpage(s) or docs was the 
assertion of HP-UX atomicity made?

I presume this is only for "blocking" sockets?  I cannot at least off 
the top of my head see how a stack could offer it on non-blocking sockets.

> And frankly, BSD defines BSD socket semantics here not some wording in
> the POSIX standards.

Have BSD socket semantics ever been updated/clarified any any 
quasi-official manner since the popular presence of threads?  Or 
are/were Posix/Xopen filling a gap?

rick jones

  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-15 23:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <OFE8460E54.0C8D85D8-ON8525716F.0074F22F-8825716F.0076D537@us.ibm.com>
2006-05-15 22:49 ` send(), sendmsg(), sendto() not thread-safe David S. Miller
2006-05-15 23:17   ` Rick Jones [this message]
2006-05-15 23:35     ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-05-16  0:02       ` Rick Jones
     [not found] <OFA7F8723C.2DDF9383-ON85257170.00014BE5-88257170.00019BEA@us.ibm.com>
2006-05-16  0:43 ` Rick Jones
2006-05-16  1:50   ` Mark A Smith
2006-05-16 16:24     ` Mike Stroyan
2006-05-17 17:25 Benjamin Reed
2006-05-17 18:00 ` Christopher Friesen
2006-05-17 18:21   ` Benjamin Reed
2006-05-17 18:52     ` Rick Jones
2006-05-17 19:06       ` Benjamin Reed

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