From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ben Greear Subject: Re: reminder, 2.6.18 window... Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:10:02 -0700 Message-ID: <4474CBAA.4040307@candelatech.com> References: <20060523.182217.59656237.davem@davemloft.net> <447412CA.50303@ipom.com> <4474A489.4080308@garzik.org> <20060524185644.GF22881@ipom.com> <4474AE92.3030501@garzik.org> <20060524191442.GG22881@ipom.com> <1148501433.5325.52.camel@jzny2> <20060524204800.GH22881@ipom.com> <4474CA66.5020401@hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Phil Dibowitz , jamal , netdev@vger.kernel.org, David Miller , Jeff Garzik Return-path: Received: from ns2.lanforge.com ([66.165.47.211]:39860 "EHLO ns2.lanforge.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932464AbWEXVLC (ORCPT ); Wed, 24 May 2006 17:11:02 -0400 To: Rick Jones In-Reply-To: <4474CA66.5020401@hp.com> Sender: netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org List-Id: netdev.vger.kernel.org Rick Jones wrote: > Phil Dibowitz wrote: >> Does having the ability to boot into single user mode break >> networking? No, it >> *allows* you to break networking. Does the _support_ of rmmod break the >> kernel? No, but it *allows* you to. > > > Are SNMP traps generated by going into single-user mode? Rather like > what I was saying to Brian earlier. I suspect though that an rmmod > doesn't generate an SNMP trap - unless perhaps that to do the rmmod one > has to first ifdown the interface and that might? If the interface comes back, it will (may?) have a different device id (if-index), even if the name is the same. Regardless, not everyone uses SNMP, so clearing stats can still be useful. Even if it is not implemented perfectly (ie, no locking, so it's possible that a clear will not totally clear some stats), it will still be right most of the time, and that will help the casual user who is trying to diagnose network errors with only console access to the system... (ie, ifconfig -a). Ben -- Ben Greear Candela Technologies Inc http://www.candelatech.com