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From: "Mikel L. Matthews" <mikel@argus-systems.com>
To: Paul Moore <paul.moore@hp.com>
Cc: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	selinux@tycho.nsa.gov, James Morris <jmorris@redhat.com>,
	Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/4] NetLabel
Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 11:09:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44772824.6090505@argus-systems.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44771EFB.6030203@hp.com>

Paul Moore wrote:
> James Morris wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 May 2006, Paul Moore wrote:
>>> This patch introduces a new kernel feature designed to support labeled
>>> networking protocols such as RIPSO and CIPSO.  These protocols are required to
>>> interoperate with existing "trusted" operating systems such as Trusted
>>> Solaris.
>> A few initial comments.
>>
>> - Did you decide that you definitely need to verify labels on fragments?  
>>
>> I can see the code's been added to do that, but wonder about a comment 
>> made during earlier discussion that mislabeled fragments could only come 
>> from a misbehaving trusted system.  What is the threat model here?
>>
> 
> This is one part of the patch that I really don't have a strong feeling
> for either way.  There was some concern on the LSM list that not
> checking the fragment options might be an issue so I added some code to
> check the fragment options.  Personally I think we are probably okay
> without it as the un-autenticated/un-verified nature of these labeling
> protocols more or less requires either a trusted network/hosts.
> 
> If the community decides that this check is not required then I can
> simply drop all of the changes in ip_fragment.c.

If you state you are labeling session packets (tcp or udp), that would 
lead one to believe all packets are labeled (including fragments). Based 
on our past evaluations I don't think non-labeled fragments would make 
it through an evaluation if CIPSO/RIPSO  were part of the TOE/security 
Target.

> 
>> - Can you explain how module loading and module refcounting for these 
>> modules work?  (e.g. what causes netlabel_cipso_v4 to be loaded, is it 
>> always safe to unload if the refcount is zero?)
> 


-- 
Thanks,
Mike

Mikel L. Matthews
Chief Technology Officer
Innovative Security Systems, Inc.
(dba Argus Systems Group)
1809 Woodfield Dr.
Savoy IL 61874
+1-217-355-6308
www.argus-systems.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-05-26 16:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-25 20:06 [RFC 0/4] NetLabel Paul Moore
2006-05-25 20:58 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-05-25 21:14   ` Paul Moore
2006-05-26  0:06 ` James Morris
2006-05-26 15:30   ` Paul Moore
2006-05-26 16:02     ` James Morris
2006-05-26 16:34       ` Paul Moore
2006-05-26 18:56         ` James Morris
2006-05-26 16:09     ` Mikel L. Matthews [this message]
2006-05-26 16:15       ` Paul Moore
2006-05-26 16:20         ` Mikel L. Matthews

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