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From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Harry Edmon <harry@atmos.washington.edu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Network performance degradation from 2.6.11.12 to 2.6.16.20
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 20:16:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4494C592.6090601@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060617165611.2c478723.akpm@osdl.org>

Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 16:23:34 -0700
> Harry Edmon <harry@atmos.washington.edu> wrote:
>
>   
>> Andrew Morton wrote:
>>     
>>> On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:01:23 -0700
>>> Harry Edmon <harry@atmos.washington.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> I have a system with a strange network performance degradation from 
>>>> 2.6.11.12 to most recent kernels including 2.6.16.20 and 2.6.17-rc6.   
>>>> The system is has Dual single core Xeons with hyperthreading on.   The 
>>>> application is the LDM system from UCAR/Unidata 
>>>> (http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/software/ldm).   This system requests 
>>>> weather data from a variety of systems using RPC calls over a reserved 
>>>> TCP port (388), puts them into a memory mapped queue file, and then 
>>>> sends the data out to a variety of downstream requesting systems, again 
>>>> using RPC calls.  When the load is heavy, the 2.6.16.20 kernel falls way 
>>>> behind with the data ingestion.  The 2.6.11.12 kernel does not.   I have 
>>>> tried an experiment with a 2.6.17-rc6 system where it just does the 
>>>> ingestion, and not the downstream distribution, and it is able to keep 
>>>> up.   I would really appreciate any pointers as to where the problem may 
>>>> be and how to diagnose it.  I have attached the config files from both 
>>>> kernels and the sysctl.conf file I am using.   I have also included the 
>>>> output from "netstat -s" on the 2.6.16.20 system during a time when it 
>>>> was having problems.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> (added netdev)
>>>
>>> A quick grep indicates that it isn't using TCP_NODELAY - we've had problems
>>> with that in the past.
>>>
>>> Perhaps a tcpdump of the net traffic will help to determine what's going on.
>>>       
>
> [ edit, edit - please don't top-post ]
>
>   
>> I assume you are talking about using TCP_NODELAY as a socket option within the 
>> LDM software.  I could give that a try.
>>     
>
> The use of TCP_NODELAY caused problems with the JVM debugger.  I'm not
> suggesting that enabling it will fix anything here.
>
>   
>> There is a lot of traffic on this node, on the order of 2000 packets in and out 
>> per second, so the tcpdump output will grow pretty fast.  How long a tcpdump 
>> would be useful, and what options would you suggest?
>>     
>
> I don't know, frankly - first one needs to develop some sort of theory,
> then use the diagnostic tools to prove or disprove that theory.  And I
> don't have a theory.
>
> I guess a simple one-second bare `tcpdump -i eth0' would be a starting
> point.  Perhaps compare the output of that with the output from a
> correctly-operating kernel, see if anything suggests itself.  That might
> also give us something which the networking developers can use.
>
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Does this fix it?
    # sysctl -w net.ipv4.tcp_abc=0


  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-18  3:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2006-06-17 22:35 ` Network performance degradation from 2.6.11.12 to 2.6.16.20 Andrew Morton
2006-06-17 23:23   ` Harry Edmon
2006-06-17 23:56     ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-18  3:16       ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2006-06-18 23:23         ` Harry Edmon
2006-06-19 13:54         ` Harry Edmon
2006-06-20  2:11           ` Herbert Xu
2006-06-19 14:47     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2006-06-19 15:24       ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-19 17:34         ` Chris Friesen
2006-06-19 20:39           ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-19 18:24         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2006-06-25 21:51           ` Harry Edmon
2006-06-26  4:20             ` Bill Fink
2006-06-25 22:22         ` Willy Tarreau
2006-06-26  5:23           ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-04 11:41             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2006-07-04 11:54               ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-10 10:55                 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2006-09-16 12:08         ` Vladimir B. Savkin
2006-09-18  8:35           ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-18  9:03             ` Vladimir B. Savkin
2006-09-18  9:58               ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-18 10:29                 ` Vladimir B. Savkin
2006-09-18 11:27                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-18 15:38                     ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-18 15:54                       ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-18 16:28                         ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-18 16:50                           ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-18 21:03                             ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-18 21:22                               ` David Miller
2006-09-18 21:46                                 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-19  5:55                                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-19 20:31                                 ` Thomas Graf
2006-09-19 20:43                                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-19  5:52                               ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-18 21:18                             ` Vladimir B. Savkin
2006-09-18 22:00                               ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-18 21:57                                 ` David Lang
2006-09-19 19:40                                   ` David Miller
2006-09-19 19:44                                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-18 22:03                                 ` Vladimir B. Savkin
2006-09-19 19:41                                   ` David Miller
2006-09-19 19:47                                 ` David Miller
2006-09-22 15:35                                   ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-22 15:43                                     ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-22 16:51                                       ` Rick Jones
2007-03-06 13:25                                         ` Packet timestamps (was: Re: Network performance degradation from 2.6.11.12 to 2.6.16.20) Vladimir B. Savkin
2007-03-06 14:38                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-06 14:43                                             ` Vladimir B. Savkin
2007-03-06 15:16                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-06 18:15                                                 ` Vladimir B. Savkin
2006-09-18 21:08                     ` Network performance degradation from 2.6.11.12 to 2.6.16.20 Vladimir B. Savkin
2006-09-18 14:09                 ` David Miller
2006-09-18 14:29                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-18 15:19                     ` Alan Cox
2006-09-18 15:19                       ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-19 16:40       ` Harry Edmon

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