From: Zach Brown <zach.brown@oracle.com>
To: Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/4] kevent: core files.
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:10:55 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44CA613F.9080806@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060728184445.GA10797@2ka.mipt.ru>
> So, I'm going to create kevent_create/destroy/control and kevent_get_events()
> Or any better names?
Yeah, that sounds good.
> Some events are impossible to create in userspace (like timer
> notification, which requires timer start and check when timer
> completed).
We're not talking about *creating* events in userspace, we're talking
about checking for their completion events in the ring.
> and get ready), and I do not see how, for exmple, glibc can avoid them
> when user requested POLLIN or similar event for network dataflow?
There are events that can be generated by kernel code paths as the event
completes. Network sockets have the hooks to do this with SIGIO, it's
very natural for the storage completion paths, etc. So that kernel code
would update the ring which userspace could check. AIO does this today.
Userspace would still have to use the syscall to sleep waiting for new
events when the ring is empty.
> According to syscall speed on Linux, last time I checked empty syscall
> took about 100ns on AMD Athlon 3500+.
Oh, sure, but still nice to avoid.
I'm mostly pursuing this because Ulrich seemed so insistent on it in his
paper and talk. I will be very sad if we don't have aggressive glibc
support for this generic event collection interface and so I want very
much to keep him engaged. Ulrich, would you be satisfied if we didn't
have the userspace mapped ring on the first pass and only had a
collection syscall?
- z
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-07-28 19:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 180+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-07-09 13:24 [RFC 1/4] kevent: core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-09 14:59 ` Pekka Enberg
2006-07-09 15:08 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-25 6:17 ` David Miller
2006-07-25 6:26 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-27 19:18 ` Zach Brown
2006-07-27 20:06 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-27 21:32 ` Zach Brown
2006-07-28 5:23 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-28 18:33 ` Zach Brown
2006-07-28 18:44 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-28 19:10 ` Zach Brown [this message]
2006-07-29 3:38 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-29 4:32 ` Nicholas Miell
2006-07-29 15:48 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-29 20:54 ` Nicholas Miell
2006-07-30 8:08 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-29 15:44 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-29 16:18 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-29 16:36 ` Hans Henrik Happe
2006-07-31 10:33 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-31 10:35 ` Herbert Xu
2006-07-31 10:50 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-31 10:57 ` David Miller
2006-07-31 10:59 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-01 7:53 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-08-01 7:58 ` David Miller
2006-07-31 19:41 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-31 22:00 ` David Miller
2006-07-31 22:16 ` Brent Cook
2006-07-31 22:20 ` David Miller
2006-08-01 6:24 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-31 22:46 ` Zach Brown
2006-08-01 9:34 ` [take2 0/4] kevent: introduction Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01 9:34 ` [take2 1/4] kevent: core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01 9:34 ` [take2 2/4] kevent: network AIO, socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01 9:34 ` [take2 4/4] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01 9:34 ` [take2 3/4] kevent: AIO, aio_sendfile() implementation Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01 13:46 ` [take2 1/4] kevent: core files James Morris
2006-08-01 13:55 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01 14:27 ` James Morris
2006-08-01 14:34 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01 23:56 ` Zach Brown
2006-08-02 0:01 ` David Miller
2006-08-02 6:43 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-02 6:39 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-02 7:25 ` David Miller
2006-08-02 7:46 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03 9:45 ` [take3 0/4] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03 9:40 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03 9:46 ` [take3 1/4] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03 9:46 ` [take3 2/4] kevent: AIO, aio_sendfile() implementation Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03 9:46 ` [take3 3/4] kevent: Network AIO, socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03 9:46 ` [take3 4/4] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03 9:43 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-03 9:48 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03 9:54 ` [take3 3/4] kevent: Network AIO, socket notifications Eric Dumazet
2006-08-03 10:13 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03 17:04 ` [take3 2/4] kevent: AIO, aio_sendfile() implementation Badari Pulavarty
2006-08-03 17:13 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03 14:40 ` [take3 1/4] kevent: Core files Eric Dumazet
2006-08-03 14:55 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03 15:11 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-03 15:21 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03 21:37 ` David Miller
2006-08-05 13:02 ` [take4 0/4] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-05 13:02 ` [take4 1/4] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-05 13:02 ` [take4 2/4] kevent: AIO, aio_sendfile() implementation Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-05 13:02 ` [take4 3/4] kevent: Network AIO, socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-05 13:02 ` [take4 4/4] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-05 17:57 ` [take4 1/4] kevent: Core files Greg KH
2006-08-05 18:10 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-08 7:44 ` [take5 0/4] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-08 7:44 ` [take5 1/4] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-08 7:44 ` [take5 2/4] kevent: AIO, aio_sendfile() implementation Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-08 7:44 ` [take5 3/4] kevent: Network AIO, socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-08 7:44 ` [take5 4/4] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-08 9:52 ` [take5 3/4] kevent: Network AIO, socket notifications Eric Dumazet
2006-08-08 10:02 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-08 22:02 ` [take5 1/4] kevent: Core files Zach Brown
2006-08-09 5:22 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-08 21:32 ` [take5 0/4] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Zach Brown
2006-08-09 5:31 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09 5:52 ` David Miller
2006-08-09 6:11 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09 6:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09 6:31 ` David Miller
2006-08-09 6:49 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09 6:57 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-08-09 7:00 ` David Miller
2006-08-09 7:00 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09 8:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-09 8:45 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-09 8:02 ` [take6 0/3] " Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09 7:58 ` David Miller
2006-08-09 8:07 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09 8:20 ` David Miller
2006-08-09 8:24 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09 8:02 ` [take6 1/3] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09 8:02 ` [take6 3/3] kevent: Network AIO, socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09 8:02 ` [take6 2/3] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09 17:47 ` [take6 1/3] kevent: Core files Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-09 19:17 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-10 0:04 ` David Miller
2006-08-09 22:21 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-10 6:14 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-10 6:42 ` David Miller
2006-08-10 6:48 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-10 7:18 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-10 7:50 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-10 8:02 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-10 8:22 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11 0:56 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-11 6:15 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11 6:23 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-11 6:30 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11 7:04 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-11 7:27 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11 6:25 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-08-11 6:33 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11 6:38 ` David Miller
2006-08-11 6:55 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-10 12:12 ` [take7 0/1] kevent: generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-10 12:16 ` [take7 1/1] kevent: core files and timer/poll notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-10 12:22 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11 8:40 ` [take8 0/2] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11 8:40 ` [take8 1/2] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11 8:40 ` [take8 2/2] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11 15:45 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-12 8:18 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-12 8:38 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-12 8:55 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-13 0:51 ` [take8 1/2] kevent: Core files Jeff Carr
2006-08-13 9:04 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-14 6:20 ` [take8 0/2] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-14 6:20 ` [take8 1/2] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-14 6:20 ` [take8 2/2] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-14 6:21 ` [take9 0/2] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-14 6:21 ` [take9 1/2] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-14 6:21 ` [take9 2/2] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-16 13:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-16 13:40 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-18 10:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-18 10:59 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-21 11:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-21 11:26 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-22 14:35 ` Davide Libenzi
2006-08-16 13:45 ` [take9 1/2] kevent: Core files Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-16 13:56 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-16 18:08 ` Zach Brown
2006-08-16 19:24 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-16 19:45 ` David Miller
2006-08-16 20:06 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-18 10:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-18 11:23 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-21 10:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-21 11:13 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-21 12:53 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-08-21 13:01 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-21 13:49 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-08-21 19:09 ` David Miller
2006-08-16 13:26 ` [take9 0/2] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-16 13:38 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-16 18:10 ` Zach Brown
2006-08-16 12:34 ` [take10 " Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-16 12:34 ` [take10 1/2] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-16 12:34 ` [take10 2/2] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-18 9:35 ` [take10 1/2] kevent: Core files Joe Jin
2006-08-18 10:10 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01 1:05 ` [RFC 1/4] kevent: core files David Miller
2006-07-27 20:58 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-07-27 21:44 ` Zach Brown
2006-07-27 22:02 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-07-28 5:39 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-28 19:01 ` Zach Brown
2006-07-28 19:24 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-28 19:34 ` Zach Brown
2006-07-28 19:37 ` Zach Brown
2006-08-01 1:02 ` David Miller
2006-08-01 17:02 ` Zach Brown
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