From: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
To: "John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>
Cc: Jamal Hadi Salim <hadi@cyberus.ca>,
Christophe Devriese <Christophe.Devriese@eurid.eu>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linville's L2 rant... -- Re: PATCH Fix bonding active-backup behavior for VLAN interfaces
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 10:21:14 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44CF8D8A.5080101@candelatech.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060801170329.GG29208@tuxdriver.com>
John W. Linville wrote:
>>>I'm just not sure that cleverness is worth the headache, especially
>>>since the most clever things usually only work by accident...
>>
>>Or, work by solid, modular design and small tweaks!
>
>
> Point taken. But stashing little hacks in the networking core for
> specific virtual drivers isn't totally modular either. And even if
> it were, "modular design" probably belongs on the list of "things
> that can be taken too far", like "everything in userland", "never
> use ioctl", and "microkernels are superior". :-)
To be honest, I'm not over-joyed to see bridging hooks included
in the VLAN code..but if that is what it takes to get bridging
and VLANs to play well and be flexible, I think it is a fair price.
It certainly wouldn't hurt to have someone take a holistic view of the
various L2 device interactions. Just documenting current functionality
on, say, the netdev wiki would be a good first step.
Thanks,
Ben
--
Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
Candela Technologies Inc http://www.candelatech.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-01 17:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-07-28 9:44 PATCH Fix bonding active-backup behavior for VLAN interfaces Christophe Devriese
2006-07-28 16:01 ` Ben Greear
2006-07-28 21:50 ` Christophe Devriese
2006-07-28 21:55 ` Ben Greear
2006-07-28 22:15 ` Christophe Devriese
[not found] ` <20060728221455.GA25610@walrus.eth1.org>
[not found] ` <44CA8AF1.3020408@candelatech.com>
2006-07-28 22:58 ` Christophe Devriese
2006-07-28 22:55 ` David Miller
2006-07-28 23:14 ` Ben Greear
2006-07-31 3:50 ` David Miller
2006-07-31 8:15 ` Christophe Devriese
2006-07-31 12:30 ` Linville's L2 rant... -- " John W. Linville
2006-07-31 16:48 ` Christophe Devriese
2006-08-01 1:39 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2006-08-01 12:08 ` John W. Linville
2006-08-01 12:33 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2006-08-01 16:10 ` Ben Greear
2006-08-01 16:52 ` John W. Linville
2006-08-01 17:04 ` Ben Greear
2006-08-01 19:47 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-08-01 16:48 ` John W. Linville
2006-08-01 16:17 ` Ben Greear
2006-08-01 17:03 ` John W. Linville
2006-08-01 17:21 ` Ben Greear [this message]
2006-08-02 9:02 ` Christophe Devriese
2006-08-02 17:37 ` Stackable devices Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-02 17:50 ` Ben Greear
2006-08-08 12:03 ` Christophe Devriese
2006-08-08 16:36 ` Ben Greear
2006-08-09 13:57 ` Christophe Devriese
2006-08-12 18:43 ` Ben Greear
2006-08-12 19:29 ` Ben Greear
2006-08-02 20:58 ` PATCH Fix bonding active-backup behavior for VLAN interfaces David Miller
2006-08-03 9:18 ` Krzysztof Oledzki
2006-08-10 18:18 ` Krzysztof Oledzki
2006-08-11 6:45 ` David Miller
2006-08-11 8:50 ` Christophe Devriese
2006-08-11 8:53 ` David Miller
2006-08-14 8:16 ` Christophe Devriese
2006-08-14 8:47 ` David Miller
2006-08-14 8:47 ` David Miller
2006-08-03 13:34 ` Christophe Devriese
2006-08-04 1:01 ` Jay Vosburgh
2006-08-15 0:09 ` David Miller
2006-08-15 22:18 ` Jay Vosburgh
2006-08-15 22:27 ` David Miller
2006-08-16 19:30 ` Krzysztof Oledzki
2006-08-20 19:41 ` Christophe Devriese
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