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From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] [NETLINK]: Dont set socket error for failed event notifications
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:08:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44DB8425.8020108@trash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060810190455.GI14627@postel.suug.ch>

Thomas Graf wrote:
> * Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net> 2006-08-10 20:09
> 
>>I disagree with this patch, how else are applications supposed
>>to know when they missed an update and are not in sync anymore?
>>I actually have a half-finished patch to add this in some spots
>>where its missing (and uses better error codes).
> 
> 
> The application has no idea what went wrong nor does it know
> for which group so it will have to resync all group subscrptions
> and as it only happens due to memory pressure that will fail
> anyway.


The error code (-ENOMEM) gives it a pretty good idea what went
wrong. Its true that it doesn't know which group was affected
(that could be fixed), but at least it knows that something
went wrong and it needs to resync. If that fails due to memory
shortage as well it can schedule a delayed resync or something,
but without getting notified it has no chance of doing anything
useful. This makes notification essentially useless. If I can't
rely on either getting either a notification or an error, I can't
rely on them at all.

Please put this back in.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-10 19:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-09 20:48 [PATCHSET]: Clean up netlink NLM_F_ECHO and rtnl event notifications Thomas Graf
2006-08-08 22:00 ` [PATCH 1/4] [NETLINK]: Handle NLM_F_ECHO in netlink_rcv_skb() Thomas Graf
2006-08-10 15:51   ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-10 19:02     ` Thomas Graf
2006-08-10 20:32       ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-10 21:18         ` Thomas Graf
2006-08-11 15:35           ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-11 21:47             ` Thomas Graf
2006-08-12 11:03               ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-12 11:19                 ` Thomas Graf
2006-08-13 13:45                   ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-12  3:05             ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-12 11:05               ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-08 22:00 ` [PATCH 2/4] [RTNETLINK]: Use rtnl_multicast()/rtnl_unicast() Thomas Graf
2006-08-09 21:00   ` [RESEND " Thomas Graf
2006-08-08 22:00 ` [PATCH 3/4] [NETLINK]: Dont set socket error for failed event notifications Thomas Graf
2006-08-10 18:09   ` Patrick McHardy
2006-08-10 19:04     ` Thomas Graf
2006-08-10 19:08       ` Patrick McHardy [this message]
2006-08-10 19:23         ` Thomas Graf
2006-08-11  6:02           ` David Miller
2006-08-11 10:38             ` Thomas Graf
2006-08-11 10:42               ` David Miller
2006-08-08 22:00 ` [PATCH 4/4] [RTNETLINK]: Unexport global rtnl sock Thomas Graf
2006-08-10  4:16 ` [PATCHSET]: Clean up netlink NLM_F_ECHO and rtnl event notifications David Miller

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