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From: Sridhar Samudrala <sri@us.ibm.com>
To: Alexander Vodomerov <alex@sectorb.msk.ru>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: high latency with TCP connections
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 08:44:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44F703F9.6050907@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060831081443.GA27075@isil.ipib.msu.ru>

Alexander Vodomerov wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 02:39:55PM -0700, David Miller wrote:
>   
>>> Expecting any performance with one byte write's is silly.
>>>       
>> This is absolutely true.  TCP_NODELAY can only save you when you are
>> sending a small amount of data "in aggregate", such as in an SSH or
>> telnet session, whereas in the case being shown here a large amount of
>> data is being sent in small chunks which will always get bad
>> performance.
>>     
>
> Information is sent with one byte write's because it is not available at
> the moment of sending (it may be read from hardware device or user). If
> I change 1 to 10 or 100 nothing changes. I'm afraid there is a bit of
> misunderstanding here. Only very small amount of data is being sent over
> network. The total traffic for example I sent is only 10 bytes/s. After
> every 10th packet program does usleep(100000) to simulate pause before
> next available data.
>
> There are really 3 factors:
> 1) total size of information is small
> 2) data for transferring is arrived by small portions from external
> source
> 3) it is very important that any portion should be delivered to receiver
> as soon as possible.
> Is TCP is good choice for such transfer or some other protocol is better
> suited?
>   
If message boundary preservation is a useful feature for your app, you 
could try SCTP.
You should be able to do this by replacing IPPROTO_TCP with IPPROTO_SCTP and
TCP_NODELAY with SCTP_NODELAY.

Thanks
Sridhar
> With best regards,
>    Alexander.
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  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-31 15:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-30 10:07 high latency with TCP connections Alexander Vodomerov
2006-08-30 17:27 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-30 21:39   ` David Miller
2006-08-30 22:04     ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-30 23:00     ` Rick Jones
2006-08-31  8:14     ` Alexander Vodomerov
2006-08-31 15:44       ` Sridhar Samudrala [this message]
2006-08-31 18:22     ` Kelly Burkhart
2006-08-31 19:40       ` Rick Jones
2006-08-31 21:08       ` Ian McDonald
2006-08-31 21:46   ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-31 22:14     ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-31 22:44       ` David Miller
2006-08-31 23:29         ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-31 23:57           ` David Miller
2006-09-01  3:23             ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-01  3:39               ` Ian McDonald
2006-09-01  6:23                 ` David Miller
2006-09-01  9:44             ` Pekka Savola
2006-09-01  9:49               ` David Miller
2006-09-01  9:47             ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-01 11:00               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
     [not found]                 ` <20060901090046.69b3d583@localhost.localdomain>
2006-09-01 20:55                   ` [PATCH] tcp: turn ABC off Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-02  7:22                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-02  8:10                       ` Herbert Xu
2006-09-04  9:10                 ` high latency with TCP connections Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-04 16:00 ` [PATCH][RFC] " Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-05 17:55   ` Rick Jones
2006-09-05 22:13     ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-18  7:39     ` David Miller
2006-09-18 17:11       ` Rick Jones
2006-09-18 20:41         ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-18 21:24           ` Rick Jones
2006-09-18 22:51             ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-19  0:37               ` Rick Jones
2006-09-22 13:46                 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-22 17:15                   ` Rick Jones
2006-09-18  7:31   ` David Miller
2006-09-18 10:37     ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-18 13:56       ` David Miller
2006-09-20 22:44         ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-20 22:47           ` David Miller
2006-09-20 22:55             ` Stephen Hemminger

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