From: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>
To: Kelly Burkhart <kelly.burkhart@gmail.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
shemminger@osdl.org, alex@sectorb.msk.ru, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: high latency with TCP connections
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:40:46 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44F73B3E.6060900@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fa1e4ce70608311122n6555b7c3n1ecec9ed3adc46c2@mail.gmail.com>
Kelly Burkhart wrote:
> On 8/30/06, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
>
>> From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>
>> > Expecting any performance with one byte write's is silly.
>>
>> This is absolutely true. TCP_NODELAY can only save you when you are
>> sending a small amount of data "in aggregate", such as in an SSH or
>> telnet session, whereas in the case being shown here a large amount of
>> data is being sent in small chunks which will always get bad
>> performance.
>
>
>
> The word performance in this list seems to always mean 'throughput'.
> It seems though that there could be some knob to tweak for those of us
> who don't care so much about throughput but care a great deal about
> latency.
IIRC Apart from interactions with Nagle (TCP_NODELAY) or the mixing of
packet and byte-based congestion control and avoidance heuristics, there
really isn't much of anything else to tweak in TCP. If it can send
data, it sends data.
Where there _is_ a knob to turn these days might be down with the
drivers and their NICs' use of interrupt coalescing:
ftp://ftp.cup.hp.com/dist/networking/briefs/nic_latency_vs_tput.txt
rick jones
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-31 19:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-30 10:07 high latency with TCP connections Alexander Vodomerov
2006-08-30 17:27 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-30 21:39 ` David Miller
2006-08-30 22:04 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-30 23:00 ` Rick Jones
2006-08-31 8:14 ` Alexander Vodomerov
2006-08-31 15:44 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2006-08-31 18:22 ` Kelly Burkhart
2006-08-31 19:40 ` Rick Jones [this message]
2006-08-31 21:08 ` Ian McDonald
2006-08-31 21:46 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-31 22:14 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-31 22:44 ` David Miller
2006-08-31 23:29 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-31 23:57 ` David Miller
2006-09-01 3:23 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-01 3:39 ` Ian McDonald
2006-09-01 6:23 ` David Miller
2006-09-01 9:44 ` Pekka Savola
2006-09-01 9:49 ` David Miller
2006-09-01 9:47 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-01 11:00 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
[not found] ` <20060901090046.69b3d583@localhost.localdomain>
2006-09-01 20:55 ` [PATCH] tcp: turn ABC off Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-02 7:22 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-02 8:10 ` Herbert Xu
2006-09-04 9:10 ` high latency with TCP connections Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-04 16:00 ` [PATCH][RFC] " Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-05 17:55 ` Rick Jones
2006-09-05 22:13 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-18 7:39 ` David Miller
2006-09-18 17:11 ` Rick Jones
2006-09-18 20:41 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-18 21:24 ` Rick Jones
2006-09-18 22:51 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-19 0:37 ` Rick Jones
2006-09-22 13:46 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-22 17:15 ` Rick Jones
2006-09-18 7:31 ` David Miller
2006-09-18 10:37 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-18 13:56 ` David Miller
2006-09-20 22:44 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-20 22:47 ` David Miller
2006-09-20 22:55 ` Stephen Hemminger
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