From: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru, alex@sectorb.msk.ru, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] Re: high latency with TCP connections
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:11:19 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <450ED337.8000700@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060918.003938.26278728.davem@davemloft.net>
David Miller wrote:
> From: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>
> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 10:55:16 -0700
>
>
>>Is this really necessary? I thought that the problems with ABC were in
>>trying to apply byte-based heuristics from the RFC(s) to a
>>packet-oritented cwnd in the stack?
>
>
> This is receiver side, and helps a sender who does congestion
> control based upon packet counting like Linux does. It really
> is less related to ABC than Alexey implies, we've always had
> this kind of problem as I mentioned in previous talks in the
> past on this issue.
For a connection receiving nothing but sub-MSS segments this is going to
non-trivially increase the number of ACKs sent no? I would expect an
unpleasant increase in service demands on something like a "burst
enabled" (./configure --enable-burst) netperf TCP_RR test:
netperf -t TCP_RR -H foo -- -b N # N > 1
to increase as a result. Pipelined HTTP would be like that, some NFS
over TCP stuff too, maybe X traffic, other "transactional" workloads as
well - maybe Tuxeudo.
rick jones
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-09-18 17:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-30 10:07 high latency with TCP connections Alexander Vodomerov
2006-08-30 17:27 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-30 21:39 ` David Miller
2006-08-30 22:04 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-30 23:00 ` Rick Jones
2006-08-31 8:14 ` Alexander Vodomerov
2006-08-31 15:44 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2006-08-31 18:22 ` Kelly Burkhart
2006-08-31 19:40 ` Rick Jones
2006-08-31 21:08 ` Ian McDonald
2006-08-31 21:46 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-31 22:14 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-31 22:44 ` David Miller
2006-08-31 23:29 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-31 23:57 ` David Miller
2006-09-01 3:23 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-01 3:39 ` Ian McDonald
2006-09-01 6:23 ` David Miller
2006-09-01 9:44 ` Pekka Savola
2006-09-01 9:49 ` David Miller
2006-09-01 9:47 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-01 11:00 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
[not found] ` <20060901090046.69b3d583@localhost.localdomain>
2006-09-01 20:55 ` [PATCH] tcp: turn ABC off Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-02 7:22 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-02 8:10 ` Herbert Xu
2006-09-04 9:10 ` high latency with TCP connections Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-04 16:00 ` [PATCH][RFC] " Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-05 17:55 ` Rick Jones
2006-09-05 22:13 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-18 7:39 ` David Miller
2006-09-18 17:11 ` Rick Jones [this message]
2006-09-18 20:41 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-18 21:24 ` Rick Jones
2006-09-18 22:51 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-19 0:37 ` Rick Jones
2006-09-22 13:46 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-22 17:15 ` Rick Jones
2006-09-18 7:31 ` David Miller
2006-09-18 10:37 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-18 13:56 ` David Miller
2006-09-20 22:44 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-20 22:47 ` David Miller
2006-09-20 22:55 ` Stephen Hemminger
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