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From: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>
To: Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	alex@sectorb.msk.ru, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] Re: high latency with TCP connections
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:24:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <450F0EA5.2020109@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060918204105.GA31333@ms2.inr.ac.ru>

Alexey Kuznetsov wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> Of course, number of ACK increases. It is the goal. :-)
> 
>>unpleasant increase in service demands on something like a "burst 
>>enabled" (./configure --enable-burst) netperf TCP_RR test:
>>
>>netperf -t TCP_RR -H foo -- -b N   # N > 1
> 
> foo=localhost

There isn't any sort of clever short-circuiting in loopback is there?  I 
do like the convenience of testing things over loopback, but always fret 
about not including drivers and actual hardware interrupts etc.

> b	patched		orig
> 2	105874.83	105143.71
> 3	114208.53	114023.07
> 4	120493.99	120851.27
> 5	128087.48	128573.33
> 10	151328.48	151056.00
 >
> Probably, the test is done wrong. But I see no difference.

Regardless, kudos for running the test.  The only thing missing is the 
-c and -C options to enable the CPU utilization measurements which will 
then give the service demand on a CPU time per transaction basis.  Or 
was this a UP system that was taken to CPU saturation?

>>to increase as a result.   Pipelined HTTP would be like that, some NFS 
>>over TCP stuff too, maybe X traffic,
> 
> 
> X will be excited about better latency.
> 
> What's about protocols not interested in latency, they will be a little
> happier, if transactions are processed asynchronously.

What i'm thinking about isn't so much about the latency as it is the 
aggregate throughput a system can do with lots of these 
protocols/connections going at the same time.  Hence the concern about 
increases in service demand.

> But actually, it is not about increasing/decreasing number of ACKs.
> It is about killing that pain in ass which we used to have because
> we pretended to be too smart.

:)

rick jones

  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-18 21:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-30 10:07 high latency with TCP connections Alexander Vodomerov
2006-08-30 17:27 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-30 21:39   ` David Miller
2006-08-30 22:04     ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-30 23:00     ` Rick Jones
2006-08-31  8:14     ` Alexander Vodomerov
2006-08-31 15:44       ` Sridhar Samudrala
2006-08-31 18:22     ` Kelly Burkhart
2006-08-31 19:40       ` Rick Jones
2006-08-31 21:08       ` Ian McDonald
2006-08-31 21:46   ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-31 22:14     ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-31 22:44       ` David Miller
2006-08-31 23:29         ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-31 23:57           ` David Miller
2006-09-01  3:23             ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-01  3:39               ` Ian McDonald
2006-09-01  6:23                 ` David Miller
2006-09-01  9:44             ` Pekka Savola
2006-09-01  9:49               ` David Miller
2006-09-01  9:47             ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-01 11:00               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
     [not found]                 ` <20060901090046.69b3d583@localhost.localdomain>
2006-09-01 20:55                   ` [PATCH] tcp: turn ABC off Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-02  7:22                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-02  8:10                       ` Herbert Xu
2006-09-04  9:10                 ` high latency with TCP connections Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-04 16:00 ` [PATCH][RFC] " Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-05 17:55   ` Rick Jones
2006-09-05 22:13     ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-18  7:39     ` David Miller
2006-09-18 17:11       ` Rick Jones
2006-09-18 20:41         ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-18 21:24           ` Rick Jones [this message]
2006-09-18 22:51             ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-19  0:37               ` Rick Jones
2006-09-22 13:46                 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-22 17:15                   ` Rick Jones
2006-09-18  7:31   ` David Miller
2006-09-18 10:37     ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-18 13:56       ` David Miller
2006-09-20 22:44         ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-20 22:47           ` David Miller
2006-09-20 22:55             ` Stephen Hemminger

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