From: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>
To: Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
alex@sectorb.msk.ru, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] Re: high latency with TCP connections
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:24:53 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <450F0EA5.2020109@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060918204105.GA31333@ms2.inr.ac.ru>
Alexey Kuznetsov wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Of course, number of ACK increases. It is the goal. :-)
>
>>unpleasant increase in service demands on something like a "burst
>>enabled" (./configure --enable-burst) netperf TCP_RR test:
>>
>>netperf -t TCP_RR -H foo -- -b N # N > 1
>
> foo=localhost
There isn't any sort of clever short-circuiting in loopback is there? I
do like the convenience of testing things over loopback, but always fret
about not including drivers and actual hardware interrupts etc.
> b patched orig
> 2 105874.83 105143.71
> 3 114208.53 114023.07
> 4 120493.99 120851.27
> 5 128087.48 128573.33
> 10 151328.48 151056.00
>
> Probably, the test is done wrong. But I see no difference.
Regardless, kudos for running the test. The only thing missing is the
-c and -C options to enable the CPU utilization measurements which will
then give the service demand on a CPU time per transaction basis. Or
was this a UP system that was taken to CPU saturation?
>>to increase as a result. Pipelined HTTP would be like that, some NFS
>>over TCP stuff too, maybe X traffic,
>
>
> X will be excited about better latency.
>
> What's about protocols not interested in latency, they will be a little
> happier, if transactions are processed asynchronously.
What i'm thinking about isn't so much about the latency as it is the
aggregate throughput a system can do with lots of these
protocols/connections going at the same time. Hence the concern about
increases in service demand.
> But actually, it is not about increasing/decreasing number of ACKs.
> It is about killing that pain in ass which we used to have because
> we pretended to be too smart.
:)
rick jones
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-09-18 21:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-30 10:07 high latency with TCP connections Alexander Vodomerov
2006-08-30 17:27 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-30 21:39 ` David Miller
2006-08-30 22:04 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-30 23:00 ` Rick Jones
2006-08-31 8:14 ` Alexander Vodomerov
2006-08-31 15:44 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2006-08-31 18:22 ` Kelly Burkhart
2006-08-31 19:40 ` Rick Jones
2006-08-31 21:08 ` Ian McDonald
2006-08-31 21:46 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-31 22:14 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-31 22:44 ` David Miller
2006-08-31 23:29 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-31 23:57 ` David Miller
2006-09-01 3:23 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-01 3:39 ` Ian McDonald
2006-09-01 6:23 ` David Miller
2006-09-01 9:44 ` Pekka Savola
2006-09-01 9:49 ` David Miller
2006-09-01 9:47 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-01 11:00 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
[not found] ` <20060901090046.69b3d583@localhost.localdomain>
2006-09-01 20:55 ` [PATCH] tcp: turn ABC off Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-02 7:22 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-02 8:10 ` Herbert Xu
2006-09-04 9:10 ` high latency with TCP connections Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-04 16:00 ` [PATCH][RFC] " Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-05 17:55 ` Rick Jones
2006-09-05 22:13 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-18 7:39 ` David Miller
2006-09-18 17:11 ` Rick Jones
2006-09-18 20:41 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-18 21:24 ` Rick Jones [this message]
2006-09-18 22:51 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-19 0:37 ` Rick Jones
2006-09-22 13:46 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-22 17:15 ` Rick Jones
2006-09-18 7:31 ` David Miller
2006-09-18 10:37 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-18 13:56 ` David Miller
2006-09-20 22:44 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-20 22:47 ` David Miller
2006-09-20 22:55 ` Stephen Hemminger
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