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From: Larry Finger <Larry.Finger-tQ5ms3gMjBLk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Michael Buesch <mb-fseUSCV1ubazQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Stefano Brivio <st3-sGOZH3hwPm2sTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>,
	Bcm43xx-dev-0fE9KPoRgkgATYTw5x5z8w@public.gmane.org,
	John Linville <linville-2XuSBdqkA4R54TAoqtyWWQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] bcm43xx: further fix for periodic work errors
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 14:06:57 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <451585D1.3080102@lwfinger.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200609230956.05475.mb-fseUSCV1ubazQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>

Michael Buesch wrote:
> On Saturday 23 September 2006 06:08, Larry Finger wrote:
>> Recent changes in the setup for preemptible periodic work fixed most
>> of the problems with NETDEV watchdog timeouts; however, some variants
>> of the bcm43xx device still had the problem. These were fixed by setting
>> the parameter MAXIMUM_BADNESS to 0. By doing so, all the functionality
>> associated with calculating the 'badness' of the upcoming periodic work
>> is no longer needed; therefore it is removed.
> 
> Uhm, no. Wait. _Why_ does the watchdog trigger.
> All periodic work in the fastpath (which you remove with this patch)
> is supposed to execute in a few microseconds.
> I don't think we want to fix this my removing the fastpath and always
> taking the _expensive_ slowpath periodic work.
> 
> So why does the watchdog trigger for the fast periodic work?
> We need to find out.
> Removing the fastpath is just bad for overall latency.
> 
> The two fastpath periodic works are 15 and 30, if executed
> standalone. If the 15 and/or 30 is execiuted alongside with
> a 60sec work, it's all slowpath, of course.

I was thinking that the 15 second periodic work called mac suspend, which is the most expensive part 
of the slowpath, but I see that is an unlikely condition. I'm now testing to see if moving the 
netif_tx_disable/netif_wake_queue pair into all paths fixes the errors. Those calls should be 
relatively inexpensive.

Larry

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-09-23 19:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-23  4:08 [PATCH] bcm43xx: further fix for periodic work errors Larry Finger
     [not found] ` <4514B322.mail1K91A36N8-tQ5ms3gMjBLk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2006-09-23  7:56   ` Michael Buesch
     [not found]     ` <200609230956.05475.mb-fseUSCV1ubazQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2006-09-23 19:06       ` Larry Finger [this message]
     [not found]         ` <451585D1.3080102-tQ5ms3gMjBLk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2006-09-23 19:41           ` Michael Buesch
2006-09-23 20:05             ` Larry Finger
     [not found]               ` <451593A0.8030104-tQ5ms3gMjBLk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2006-09-23 20:22                 ` Michael Buesch

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