From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [NET] Size listen hash tables using backlog hint
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:34:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <45371C8D.20603@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061018.231218.74744257.davem@davemloft.net>
David Miller a écrit :
> From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:12:58 +0200
>
>> A 66 MHz 486 can perform 1.000.000 divisions per second. Is it a 'slow' cpu ?
>
> Sparc and some other embedded chips have no division/modulus integer
> instruction and do it in software.
How many times this division will be done ? As I said, tcp session establishment.
Are you aware a division is done in slab code when you kfree() one network
frames ? That is much more problematic than SYN packets.
>
>> So... what do you prefer :
>>
>> 1) Keep the modulus
>> 2) allocate two blocks of ram (powser-of -two hash size, but one extra
>> indirection)
>> 3) waste near half of ram because one block allocated, and power-of-two hash size.
>
> I thought the problem was that you use a modulus and non-power-of-2
> hash table size because rounding up to the next power of 2 wastes
> a lot of space? Given that, my suggestion is simply to not round
> up to the next power-of-2, or only do so when we are very very close
> to that next power-of-2.
My main problem is being able to use a large hash table on big servers.
With power-of two constraint, plus kmalloc max size constraint, we can use
half the size we could.
Are you suggesting something like :
Allocation time:
----------------
if (cpu is very_very_slow or hash size small_enough) {
ptr->size = power_of_too;
ptr->size_mask = (power_of_two - 1);
} else {
ptr->size = somevalue;
ptr->size_mask = ~0;
}
Lookup time :
---------------
if (ptr->size_mask != ~0)
slot = hash & ptr->size_mask;
else
slot = hash % ptr->size;
The extra conditional branch may be more expensive than just doing division on
99% of cpus...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-10-19 6:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-10-17 0:53 [PATCH] Bound TSO defer time (resend) John Heffner
2006-10-17 3:20 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-17 4:18 ` John Heffner
2006-10-17 5:35 ` David Miller
2006-10-17 12:22 ` John Heffner
2006-10-19 3:39 ` David Miller
2006-10-17 12:58 ` [PATCH] [NET] Size listen hash tables using backlog hint Eric Dumazet Hi
2006-10-18 7:38 ` [PATCH] [NET] inet_peer : group together avl_left, avl_right, v4daddr to speedup lookups on some CPUS Eric Dumazet
2006-10-18 16:35 ` [PATCH] [NET] reduce per cpu ram used for loopback stats Eric Dumazet
2006-10-18 17:00 ` [PATCH, resent] " Eric Dumazet
2006-10-19 3:53 ` David Miller
2006-10-19 3:53 ` [PATCH] " David Miller
2006-10-19 3:44 ` [PATCH] [NET] inet_peer : group together avl_left, avl_right, v4daddr to speedup lookups on some CPUS David Miller
2006-10-19 10:57 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-19 15:45 ` [PATCH] [NET] One NET_INC_STATS() could be NET_INC_STATS_BH in tcp_v4_err() Eric Dumazet
2006-10-20 7:22 ` David Miller
2006-10-20 14:21 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2006-10-20 7:28 ` [PATCH] [NET] inet_peer : group together avl_left, avl_right, v4daddr to speedup lookups on some CPUS David Miller
2006-10-19 3:31 ` [PATCH] [NET] Size listen hash tables using backlog hint David Miller
2006-10-19 4:54 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-19 5:08 ` David Miller
2006-10-19 5:12 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-19 6:12 ` David Miller
2006-10-19 6:34 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2006-10-19 6:57 ` David Miller
2006-10-19 8:29 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-19 8:41 ` David Miller
2006-10-19 9:11 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-19 9:27 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-20 7:27 ` David Miller
2006-10-18 15:37 ` [PATCH] Bound TSO defer time (resend) Andi Kleen
2006-10-18 16:40 ` Stephen Hemminger
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