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From: John Heffner <jheffner@psc.edu>
To: Hagen Paul Pfeifer <hagen@jauu.net>,
	John Heffner <jheffner@psc.edu>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] tcp: setsockopt congestion control autoload
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 18:53:27 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45413C67.3090105@psc.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061026224407.GA2018@c3po.0xdef.net>

Hagen Paul Pfeifer wrote:
> * John Heffner | 2006-10-26 13:29:26 [-0400]:
> 
>> My reservation in doing this would be that as an administrator, I may 
>> want to choose exactly what congestion control is available any any 
>> given time.  The different congestion control algorithms are not 
>> necessarily fair to each other.
> 
> ACK, completely right. A user without CAP_NET_ADMIN MUST NOT changed the
> algorithm.  We know that there are some unfairness out there. And maybe some
> time ago someone introduce a satellite-algorithm which is per definition
> completely unfair to vanilla tcp.
> We should guard this with a CAP_NET_ADMIN capability so that built-in modules
> also shouldn't be enabled.

I don't know if I'd want to go that far.  For example, there's a nice 
protocol TCP-LP which is by design unfair in the other direction -- it 
yields to other traffic so that you can basically run a scavenger service.

If you really care about this, you could try to rank protocols based on 
aggressiveness (note this is not trivial) and do something like 'nice' 
where mortals can only nice up not down.  Practically speaking, I'm not 
sure this is necessary (worth the effort).

   -John

  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-26 22:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-25 18:08 [RFC] tcp: setsockopt congestion control autoload Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-25 23:21 ` Patrick McHardy
2006-10-26  5:22 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-26 14:34   ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-26 14:57     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-26 15:23       ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-26 17:05         ` Patrick McHardy
2006-10-26 20:55       ` David Miller
2006-10-26 17:29 ` John Heffner
2006-10-26 20:57   ` David Miller
2006-10-26 22:44   ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2006-10-26 22:53     ` John Heffner [this message]
2006-10-26 23:52     ` [PATCH] Check if user has CAP_NET_ADMIN to change congestion control algorithm Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2006-10-26 23:59       ` Ian McDonald
2006-10-27  0:07         ` David Miller
2006-10-27  0:20           ` Ian McDonald
2006-10-27  0:02       ` David Miller
2006-10-27 10:43         ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2006-10-27 14:41           ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-27 15:21             ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2006-10-27 15:48               ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-27 17:30                 ` [PATCH] tcp: don't allow unfair congestion control to be built without warning Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-27 17:43                   ` John Heffner
2006-10-27 17:59                     ` [PATCH] tcp: allow restricting congestion control choices Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-27 21:17                   ` [PATCH] tcp: don't allow unfair congestion control to be built without warning David Miller
2006-10-27 21:24                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-27 21:37                       ` David Miller
2006-10-27 21:59                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-27 22:12                           ` David Miller
2006-10-27 22:21                             ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-27 22:24                               ` David Miller
2006-10-28  0:48                                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-28  3:10                                   ` [RFC] tcp: available congetsion control Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-27 21:22             ` [PATCH] Check if user has CAP_NET_ADMIN to change congestion control algorithm David Miller
2006-10-27  1:03       ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-27 18:14 ` [PATCH] tcp: setsockopt congestion control autoload Stephen Hemminger

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