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From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>
To: Hagen Paul Pfeifer <hagen@jauu.net>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	jheffner@psc.edu, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Check if user has CAP_NET_ADMIN to change congestion control algorithm
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:48:01 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45422A31.7070806@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061027152157.GB4632@c3po.0xdef.net>

Hagen Paul Pfeifer wrote:
> * Stephen Hemminger | 2006-10-27 07:41:02 [-0700]:
>
>   
>> Please no, it makes the socket option useless.
>>     
>
> Technical no, in the sense of usability for everybody yes. You are right
> Stephen, as a programmer I understand you complete!
>
> But on the other side: We know for sure that this IS a problem if we allow
> everybody to "prefer his socket".
>
> In my opinion we should prefer fairness before usability! As John Heffner
> introduce, we can introduce a ranking system for congestion control algorithms -
> but this solution seems a little bit oversized and maybe can't be complete
> guaranteed (complex interaction between the protocols in different
> environment and so on, you know).
>
> HGN
>
>   
If there is a dangerous choice, then it should be removed. Otherwise I can't
see the problem. It is a bigger risk to have to escalate the privileges 
of an application
just to allow it to use something.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-27 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-25 18:08 [RFC] tcp: setsockopt congestion control autoload Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-25 23:21 ` Patrick McHardy
2006-10-26  5:22 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-26 14:34   ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-26 14:57     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-26 15:23       ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-26 17:05         ` Patrick McHardy
2006-10-26 20:55       ` David Miller
2006-10-26 17:29 ` John Heffner
2006-10-26 20:57   ` David Miller
2006-10-26 22:44   ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2006-10-26 22:53     ` John Heffner
2006-10-26 23:52     ` [PATCH] Check if user has CAP_NET_ADMIN to change congestion control algorithm Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2006-10-26 23:59       ` Ian McDonald
2006-10-27  0:07         ` David Miller
2006-10-27  0:20           ` Ian McDonald
2006-10-27  0:02       ` David Miller
2006-10-27 10:43         ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2006-10-27 14:41           ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-27 15:21             ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2006-10-27 15:48               ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2006-10-27 17:30                 ` [PATCH] tcp: don't allow unfair congestion control to be built without warning Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-27 17:43                   ` John Heffner
2006-10-27 17:59                     ` [PATCH] tcp: allow restricting congestion control choices Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-27 21:17                   ` [PATCH] tcp: don't allow unfair congestion control to be built without warning David Miller
2006-10-27 21:24                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-27 21:37                       ` David Miller
2006-10-27 21:59                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-27 22:12                           ` David Miller
2006-10-27 22:21                             ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-27 22:24                               ` David Miller
2006-10-28  0:48                                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-28  3:10                                   ` [RFC] tcp: available congetsion control Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-27 21:22             ` [PATCH] Check if user has CAP_NET_ADMIN to change congestion control algorithm David Miller
2006-10-27  1:03       ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-27 18:14 ` [PATCH] tcp: setsockopt congestion control autoload Stephen Hemminger

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