From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] s2io ppc64 fix for readq/writeq
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 03:21:15 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <454EF07B.4010503@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1162800248.28571.296.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
>> This seems a bit ugly. Could you add
>>
>> #define readq readq
>>
>> to your platform instead?
>
> That's ugly too imho but I suppose I can do it :-)
>
>> I generally think it's a bug in the kernel-wide API, if use of said API
>> requires arch-specific ifdefs.
>
> Yes. I agree. In that specific case, I suppose what you propose is the
> least ugly of the solutions. HAVE_ARCH_* is pretty much out of fascion
> (and I tend to agree with Linus that it's not pretty anyway).
>
> Actually, I tend to think in that specific case that the driver defining
> something called readq and writeq based on a pair of readl's and
> writel's is fairly bogus though.
>
>> Or maybe the problem could be solved another way, by guaranteeing that a
>> "good enough for drivers" readq() and writeq() exist on all platforms,
>> even 32-bit platforms where the operation isn't inherently atomic.
>
> I'd rather not provide readq/writeq if they aren't atomic.
This is why I said "good enough for drivers". This is _key_.
I have run into several [PCI] devices with 64-bit registers, and
__none__ of them had requirements such that the Linux platform code
-must- provide an atomic readq/writeq. Probably because everybody wants
to support 32-bit platforms with their devices.
What you call "fairly bogus" is precisely what drivers need. These
devices with 64-bit registers just don't need the atomicity that arch
developers harp about :)
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-11-06 8:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-11-06 2:28 [PATCH] s2io ppc64 fix for readq/writeq Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-06 7:50 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-06 8:04 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-06 8:21 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2006-11-06 8:52 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-06 9:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-07 0:17 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-06 9:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-06 9:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-06 9:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-06 9:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-06 9:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-06 9:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-11-06 20:33 Ramkrishna Vepa
2006-11-06 20:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-11-06 20:54 ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-07 2:57 Ramkrishna Vepa
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