From: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
To: Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Zach Brown <zach.brown@oracle.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Chase Venters <chase.venters@clientec.com>,
Johann Borck <johann.borck@densedata.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Subject: Re: [take25 1/6] kevent: Description.
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:46:42 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4564E162.8040901@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <11641265982190@2ka.mipt.ru>
Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> + int kevent_wait(int ctl_fd, unsigned int num, __u64 timeout);
> +
> +ctl_fd - file descriptor referring to the kevent queue
> +num - number of processed kevents
> +timeout - this timeout specifies number of nanoseconds to wait until there is
> + free space in kevent queue
> +
> +Return value:
> + number of events copied into ring buffer or negative error value.
This is not quite sufficient. What we also need is a parameter which
specifies which ring buffer the code assumes is currently active. This
is just like the EWOULDBLOCK error in the futex. I.e., the kernel
doesn't move the thread on the wait list if the index has changed.
Otherwise asynchronous ring buffer filling is impossible. Assume this
thread kernel
get current ring buffer idx
front and tail pointer the same
add new entry to ring buffer
bump front pointer
call kevent_wait()
With the interface above this leads to a deadlock. The kernel delivered
the event and is done with it.
If the kevent_wait() syscall gets an additional parameter which
specifies the expected front pointer the kernel wouldn't put the thread
to sleep since, in this case, the front pointer changed since last checked.
The kernel cannot and should not check the ring buffer is empty.
Userlevel should maintain the tail pointer all by itself. And even if
the tail pointer is available to the kernel, the program might want to
handle the queued events differently.
The above also comes to bear without asynchronous queuing if a thread
waits for more than one event and it is possible to handle both events
concurrently in two threads.
Passing in the expected front pointer value is flexible and efficient.
--
➧ Ulrich Drepper ➧ Red Hat, Inc. ➧ 444 Castro St ➧ Mountain View, CA ❖
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2006-10-27 16:10 ` [take21 0/4] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-27 16:10 ` [take21 1/4] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-27 16:10 ` [take21 2/4] kevent: poll/select() notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-27 16:10 ` [take21 3/4] kevent: Socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-27 16:10 ` [take21 4/4] kevent: Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-28 10:04 ` [take21 2/4] kevent: poll/select() notifications Eric Dumazet
2006-10-28 10:08 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-28 10:28 ` [take21 1/4] kevent: Core files Eric Dumazet
2006-10-28 10:53 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-28 12:36 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-28 13:03 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-28 13:23 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-28 13:28 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-28 13:34 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-28 13:47 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-27 16:42 ` [take21 0/4] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-07 11:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-07 11:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-07 11:58 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-07 11:51 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-07 12:17 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-07 12:29 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-07 12:32 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-07 19:34 ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-07 20:52 ` David Miller
2006-11-07 21:38 ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-01 11:36 ` [take22 " Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-01 11:36 ` [take22 1/4] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-01 11:36 ` [take22 2/4] kevent: poll/select() notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-01 11:36 ` [take22 3/4] kevent: Socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-01 11:36 ` [take22 4/4] kevent: Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-01 13:06 ` [take22 0/4] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Pavel Machek
2006-11-01 13:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-01 16:05 ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-01 16:24 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-01 18:13 ` Oleg Verych
2006-11-01 18:57 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-02 2:12 ` Nate Diller
2006-11-02 6:21 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-02 19:40 ` Nate Diller
2006-11-03 8:42 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-03 8:57 ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-03 9:04 ` David Miller
2006-11-07 12:05 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-03 9:13 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-05 11:19 ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-05 11:43 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
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2006-11-03 2:42 ` zhou drangon
2006-11-03 9:16 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-07 12:02 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-03 18:49 ` Oleg Verych
2006-11-04 10:24 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-04 17:47 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-01 16:07 ` James Morris
2006-11-07 16:50 ` [take23 0/5] " Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-07 16:50 ` [take23 1/5] kevent: Description Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-07 16:50 ` [take23 2/5] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-07 16:50 ` [take23 3/5] kevent: poll/select() notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-07 16:50 ` [take23 4/5] kevent: Socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-07 16:50 ` [take23 5/5] kevent: Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-07 22:53 ` [take23 3/5] kevent: poll/select() notifications Davide Libenzi
2006-11-08 8:45 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-08 17:03 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-07 22:16 ` [take23 2/5] kevent: Core files Andrew Morton
2006-11-08 8:24 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-07 22:16 ` [take23 1/5] kevent: Description Andrew Morton
2006-11-08 8:23 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-07 22:17 ` [take23 0/5] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Andrew Morton
2006-11-08 8:21 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-08 14:51 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-08 22:03 ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-08 22:44 ` Davide Libenzi
2006-11-08 23:07 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-08 23:56 ` Davide Libenzi
2006-11-09 7:24 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-09 7:52 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-09 17:12 ` Davide Libenzi
2006-11-09 8:23 ` [take24 0/6] " Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-09 8:23 ` [take24 1/6] kevent: Description Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-09 8:23 ` [take24 2/6] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-09 8:23 ` [take24 3/6] kevent: poll/select() notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-09 8:23 ` [take24 4/6] kevent: Socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-09 8:23 ` [take24 5/6] kevent: Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-09 8:23 ` [take24 6/6] kevent: Pipe notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-09 9:08 ` [take24 3/6] kevent: poll/select() notifications Eric Dumazet
2006-11-09 9:29 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-09 18:51 ` Davide Libenzi
2006-11-09 19:10 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-09 19:42 ` Davide Libenzi
2006-11-09 20:10 ` Davide Libenzi
2006-11-11 17:36 ` [take24 7/6] kevent: signal notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-11 22:28 ` [take24 0/6] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-13 10:54 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-13 11:16 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-20 0:02 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-20 8:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-20 8:43 ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-20 8:51 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-20 9:15 ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-20 9:19 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-20 20:29 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-20 21:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-20 21:52 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-21 9:09 ` Ingo Oeser
2006-11-22 11:38 ` Michael Tokarev
2006-11-22 11:47 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-22 12:33 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-21 9:53 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-21 16:58 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-21 17:43 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-21 18:46 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-21 20:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-22 10:41 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-21 20:19 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-22 10:39 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-22 7:38 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-22 10:44 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-22 21:02 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-23 12:23 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-23 8:52 ` Kevent POSIX timers support Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-23 20:26 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-24 9:50 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-27 18:20 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-27 18:24 ` David Miller
2006-11-27 18:36 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-27 18:49 ` David Miller
2006-11-28 9:16 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-28 19:13 ` David Miller
2006-11-28 19:22 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-12-12 1:36 ` David Miller
2006-12-12 5:31 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-28 9:16 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-22 7:33 ` [take24 0/6] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-22 10:38 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-22 22:22 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-23 12:18 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-23 22:23 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-24 10:57 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-27 19:12 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-28 11:00 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-22 12:09 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-22 12:15 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-22 13:46 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-22 22:24 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-23 12:22 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-23 20:34 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-24 10:58 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-27 18:23 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-28 10:13 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-12-27 20:45 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-12-28 9:50 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-21 16:29 ` [take25 " Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-21 16:29 ` [take25 1/6] kevent: Description Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-21 16:29 ` [take25 2/6] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-21 16:29 ` [take25 3/6] kevent: poll/select() notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-21 16:29 ` [take25 4/6] kevent: Socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-21 16:29 ` [take25 5/6] kevent: Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-21 16:29 ` [take25 6/6] kevent: Pipe notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-22 11:20 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-22 11:30 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-22 23:46 ` Ulrich Drepper [this message]
2006-11-23 11:52 ` [take25 1/6] kevent: Description Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-23 19:45 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-24 11:01 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-24 16:06 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-24 16:14 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-24 16:31 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-27 19:20 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-22 23:52 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-23 11:55 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-23 20:00 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-23 21:49 ` Hans Henrik Happe
2006-11-23 22:34 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-24 11:50 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-24 16:17 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-24 11:46 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-24 16:30 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-24 16:49 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-27 19:23 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-23 22:33 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-23 22:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-23 23:45 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-24 0:48 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-24 8:14 ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-24 8:33 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-24 15:26 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-24 0:14 ` Hans Henrik Happe
2006-11-24 12:05 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-24 12:13 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-27 19:43 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-28 10:26 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-30 19:14 ` [take26 0/8] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-30 19:14 ` [take26 1/8] kevent: Description Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-30 19:14 ` [take26 2/8] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-30 19:14 ` [take26 3/8] kevent: poll/select() notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-30 19:14 ` [take26 4/8] kevent: Socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-30 19:14 ` [take26 5/8] kevent: Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-30 19:14 ` [take26 6/8] kevent: Pipe notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-30 19:14 ` [take26 7/8] kevent: Signal notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-30 19:14 ` [take26 8/8] kevent: Kevent posix timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
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