From: Vlad Yasevich <vladislav.yasevich@hp.com>
To: Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano@fr.ibm.com>
Cc: devel@openvz.org, "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Linux Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
hadi@cyberus.ca, Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Devel] Re: Network virtualization/isolation
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 11:15:11 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <456F038F.8090509@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <456E055F.8020100@fr.ibm.com>
Daniel Lezcano wrote:
> Brian Haley wrote:
>> Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>> I think for cases across network socket namespaces it should
>>> be a matter for the rules, to decide if the connection should
>>> happen and what error code to return if the connection does not
>>> happen.
>>>
>>> There is a potential in this to have an ambiguous case where two
>>> applications can be listening for connections on the same socket
>>> on the same port and both will allow the connection. If that
>>> is the case I believe the proper definition is the first socket
>>> that we find that will accept the connection gets the connection.
> No. If you try to connect, the destination IP address is assigned to a
> network namespace. This network namespace is used to leave the listening
> socket ambiguity.
>>
>> Wouldn't you want to catch this at bind() and/or configuration time and
>> fail? Having overlapping namespaces/rules seems undesirable, since as
>> Herbert said, can get you "unexpected behaviour".
>
> Overlapping is not a problem, you can have several sockets binded on the
> same INADDR_ANY/port without ambiguity because the network namespace
> pointer is added as a new key for sockets lookup, (src addr, src port,
> dst addr, dst port, net ns pointer). The bind should not be forced to a
> specific address because you will not be able to connect via 127.0.0.1.
So, all this leads to me ask, how to handle 127.0.0.1?
For L2 it seems easy. Each namespace gets a tagged lo device.
How do you propose to do it for L3, because disabling access to loopback is
not a valid option, IMO.
I agree that adding a namespace to the (using generic terms) TCB lookup
solves the conflict issue.
-vlad
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-11-30 16:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-10-25 15:51 Network virtualization/isolation Daniel Lezcano
2006-10-23 20:01 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-26 9:44 ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-10-26 15:56 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-26 22:16 ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-10-27 7:34 ` Dmitry Mishin
2006-10-27 9:10 ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-11-01 14:35 ` jamal
2006-11-01 16:13 ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-11-14 15:17 ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-11-14 18:12 ` James Morris
2006-11-15 9:56 ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-11-22 12:00 ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-11-25 9:09 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-11-28 14:15 ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-11-28 16:51 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-11-28 17:37 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-11-28 20:26 ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-11-28 21:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-11-29 5:54 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-11-29 20:21 ` Brian Haley
2006-11-29 22:10 ` [Devel] " Daniel Lezcano
2006-11-30 16:15 ` Vlad Yasevich [this message]
2006-11-30 16:38 ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-11-30 17:24 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-12-03 12:26 ` jamal
2006-12-03 14:13 ` jamal
2006-12-03 16:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-04 15:19 ` Dmitry Mishin
2006-12-04 15:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-04 16:43 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-12-04 16:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-04 17:02 ` Dmitry Mishin
2006-12-04 17:19 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-12-04 17:41 ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-12-04 12:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-04 13:44 ` jamal
2006-12-04 15:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-04 16:00 ` Dmitry Mishin
2006-12-04 16:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-06 11:54 ` [Devel] " Kirill Korotaev
2006-12-06 18:30 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-12-08 19:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-09 3:50 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-12-09 6:13 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-09 6:35 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-12-09 21:18 ` Dmitry Mishin
2006-12-09 22:34 ` Kir Kolyshkin
2006-12-10 2:21 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-12-09 8:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-09 11:27 ` Tomasz Torcz
2006-12-09 19:04 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-12-03 16:37 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-12-03 16:58 ` jamal
2006-12-04 10:18 ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-12-04 13:22 ` jamal
2006-12-02 11:29 ` Kari Hurtta
2006-12-02 11:49 ` Kari Hurtta
2006-11-29 5:58 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-11-25 8:21 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-11-26 18:34 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-11-26 19:41 ` Ben Greear
2006-11-26 20:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-11-25 8:27 ` Eric W. Biederman
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