From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
netdev <netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: QEMU PIC indirection patch for in-kernel APIC work
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 12:58:30 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4614C846.7070605@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070405093033.GC25448-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
Ingo Molnar wrote:
> so right now the only option for a clean codebase is the KVM in-kernel
> code.
I strongly disagree with this. Bad code in userspace is not an excuse
for shoving stuff into the kernel, where maintaining it is much more
expensive, and the cause of a mistake can be system crashes and data
loss, affecting unrelated processes. If we move something into the
kernel, we'd better have a really good reason for it.
Qemu code _is_ crufty. We can do one of three things:
1. live with it
2. fork it and clean it up
3. clean it up incrementally and merge it upstream
Currently we're doing (1). You're suggesting a variant of (2), fork
plus move into the kernel. The right thing to do IMO is (3), but I
don't see anybody volunteering. Qemu picked up additional committers
recently and I believe they would be receptive to cleanups.
[In the *pic/pit case, we have other reasons to push things into the
kernel. But "this code is crap, let's rewrite it in the kernel" is not
a justification I'll accept. I'd be much happier if we could quantify
these other reasons.]
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2007-04-04 23:19 ` [kvm-devel] QEMU PIC indirection patch for in-kernel APIC work Rusty Russell
2007-04-05 7:17 ` Avi Kivity
2007-04-06 1:02 ` Rusty Russell
2007-04-08 5:36 ` Avi Kivity
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2007-04-08 9:04 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2007-04-09 2:50 ` Rusty Russell
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2007-04-09 7:10 ` Avi Kivity
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2007-04-09 9:46 ` Rusty Russell
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2007-04-09 13:38 ` Avi Kivity
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2007-04-10 8:07 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-04-10 8:19 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
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2007-04-10 8:58 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-04-10 11:21 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
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2007-04-10 11:50 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-04-10 12:17 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
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2007-04-10 12:30 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
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2007-04-10 12:49 ` Avi Kivity
2007-04-11 3:53 ` [kvm-devel] " Rusty Russell
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2007-04-11 4:26 ` Avi Kivity
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2007-04-11 13:23 ` Rusty Russell
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2007-04-11 14:28 ` Avi Kivity
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2007-04-11 23:30 ` Rusty Russell
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2007-04-12 3:32 ` Avi Kivity
2007-04-16 0:22 ` [kvm-devel] " Rusty Russell
2007-04-16 5:13 ` Avi Kivity
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2007-04-05 9:30 ` Ingo Molnar
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2007-04-05 9:58 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2007-04-05 10:26 ` [kvm-devel] " Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 11:26 ` Avi Kivity
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2007-04-05 11:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-06 1:16 ` [kvm-devel] " Rusty Russell
2007-04-06 18:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 10:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 14:32 ` [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2007-04-06 10:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-06 11:07 ` Ingo Molnar
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